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Could the Meta platforms outage be a harbinger of digital vulnerability we've ignored for too long? Join Destiny and I as we unpack the complexities of cybersecurity, not to paint a daunting picture, but to reveal its multifaceted nature, brimming with challenges and thrills. From a deep dive into the recent Meta mishap to the nuances of "soft life" illusions online, we're peeling back layers of the tech world's most pressing issues. We won't shy away from the lighter side either, sharing our hot takes on Netflix's "Mia Culpa," the dynamics of "Love is Blind," and the adrenaline-pumping new season of "BMF." Plus, we hint at a live show that could bring you closer to the action than ever before.
Ever felt the tech industry's portrayal was a little too polished? We're here to give it to you straight, with anecdotes that question the authenticity of 'day in the life' videos and an honest look at what working in tech really entails. Our discussion spans the pace of work, the concrete benefits of networking, and the balance of job security against equity when the corporate maze throws a curveball. Whether you're weathering the storm of a performance improvement plan or navigating layoffs, this episode serves up a blend of career advice and firsthand experiences that resonate deeply within the tech community.
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00:00 - Tech Talk and Entertainment Updates
10:59 - Realistic Expectations in Tech Careers
20:24 - Cyber Security Assessment Best Practices
29:52 - Cybersecurity
42:57 - Building a Strong Professional Community
50:07 - Workplace Efficiency and Performance Feedback
01:02:10 - Workplace Challenges and Transitions
01:10:27 - Navigating Careers in the Tech Industry
01:16:49 - Tech Industry Layoffs and Corporate Mindset
01:26:05 - Social Media Posts and Data Security
01:33:05 - Cyber Attack and Ransomware Game
Hello and welcome back to another episode of the Techual Talk. I'm your host, hd, and we got our co-host, destiny, in the building with us today. In today's episode we're tapping into a plethora of rich topics, starting with the recent meta-platforms massive outage. Was it the cyberattack or human error? We'll explore the intricate details that have left experts and users alike pondering the vulnerabilities of our interconnected digital age. We'll also tackle the controversial perspective that cybersecurity is boring. Destiny and me passionately counter the negative view that was expressed in this video, shedding light on diversity and challenges. That makes the feel anything but dull. But it's not all technical talk today. We've got some entertainment chatter as well. Destiny and I will discuss what are our takes on the movie Mia Culpa that everyone has been talking about, that has recently launched on Netflix. We'll also give our takes a love and blind and the latest season of BMF. The spotlight then swings back to cybersecurity, where Destiny shares her expertise on cybersecurity maturity assessments. She emphasizes the importance of defined deliverables and foundational knowledge needed before conducting thorough assessments. And we'll also dive into the soft life illusion cast by Dan the Life influencers, discussing the need for more honesty and portraying the work realities, particularly in tech, not forgetting to mention we got some exciting news about a potential live show, so stay tuned to learn how you can be part of our journey. Lastly, we'll top off the episode with some career advice, from negotiating our work to handling layouts and the significance of building a network in the tech industry. Make sure you're comfortable and ready for this riveting conversation full of insights, disagreements and valuable takeaways. Don't forget to support us on Patreon. And now let's get into the episode. We are live in this thing, man.
Speaker 3:Good morning.
Speaker 1:Good morning, I think your volume is a little low, or maybe it's me, let me see. I just want to make sure you know what you say about now. Yeah, I think you're good. You can turn your game up, I mean as much as you want to, since you're a little farther back from the mic, and that should help us out too. If it get to be like where, like you sound like you're super loud, I'll turn it down. I forgot we're live on Twitter too, so oh wow I was wondering, like, where all these people was going from. So oh yeah, they on Twitter. But yeah, welcome back to. We don't even figure that with the segments call yet. I mean, it's the extension of the textual talk and let me talk to y'all. All right, there we go Until I change my setup again. But this is the extension of the textual talk and destiny is our co-host here and what we do is we just break everything down but we give it to y'all real. So I know destiny want to kind of start off with. I know last time we met and saw y'all, she hadn't seen me a couple yet. So we want to briefly talk about what we think about me a couple. So what you thought about it.
Speaker 3:Um, okay, so I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. I didn't hate it, I didn't love it. I think the best part for me was the typically with Tyler Perry, the beginning of the movies are really good and then when you get to the end, I always feel like he like runs out of time, so like he's trying to hurry up and end the film and the ending was not. Um, it was trash. The ending was trash. The beginning was good. If I had to give it a rating, I would probably give it a seven and a half. But Kelly ate that roll up.
Speaker 1:She ate it up. She looked good and a four.
Speaker 3:A four.
Speaker 1:They introduced the best friend that he was to be so good friends with. She only had like two lines. What was the purpose of her being on the show?
Speaker 3:She didn't have that many lines. There were a lot of characters that it was just like what is happening with this, like I wish at the end that she would have got with the PI guy.
Speaker 1:Me too. I thought that was a two, but so the best friend barely said nothing. The only thing she did was play Call of Duty with the man. Stupid stuff she was doing, like not calling her own Uber and just going back over there to the guy. It's like a whole bunch of stupid. Like I said, it's it's like a combination of a couple of two or three movies acrimony when love fails, whatever. The one is where the woman went to jail because she was talking to the young dude and her best friends, son or something like that.
Speaker 3:I don't know what someone that is. But but I know it made me think about what is that movie by Tyler Perry? No, it made me like the mom. His mom was acting like the lady from the have and have nuts.
Speaker 1:See, I don't watch this show. I've never watched this show.
Speaker 3:Well, they were on the same level the mom in the have and have nuts and the mom in Miacopa, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've never watched it, but I'm trying to see what's what's topic that you want to touch on today. But actually, no, I'm going to get you the floor so you could talk about love is blind, because that's I know some of you put on there and that's not something I've been watching. So I'm gonna give you the stage.
Speaker 3:Hot mess. My boy, kalei, like you did not have to do my girl, ad like that Very disappointed in you but also happy to see that your mom is a good woman, she has some calm, she has common sense in the scene with his mom and his dad, was amazing. So this season was better than the last season. For me the last season was kind of like jokie, it wasn't that good, but this season was was good. There were some some good hits. I didn't finish, finish I think I'm on like I think I have like two more episodes to go. But obviously Clay, clay and ad they're the, the black couple, and he just was not standing her up at the aisle smiling in her face while she's standing there just cheese and so hard. And then when it's your turn to you, you know, say I do, you say I don't, and then you tell her Well, this doesn't mean we're over, it just was a mess, it was a hot mess. I I can't wait to see what, what comes of him and what happens with him. I'm his character because you know, like typically the most hated people they kind of end up falling off. So I'm excited to see kind of what happens with him and ad. Hopefully, I heard she was still with him, so I haven't even been able to confirm that or look it up, but I did hear that they were still an item. So I need to do some research about that to figure out what's going on there, and I'm actually ready to watch the reunion to see, like what's actually happening, happening right now between them in the flesh. Are they cool? Are they not cool? Are they on speaking terms? Are they together? Are they still engaged? Like what's going on there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've just been seeing those names around on social media, but I have no idea who they are. Literally I don't. So you're watching Love is Blind and we started Show Gun this week.
Speaker 3:Okay, I heard about that. What network?
Speaker 1:FX.
Speaker 3:FX. Okay, what is it about?
Speaker 1:If you have Hulu's on Hulu. So I don't know what time period it takes place in Japan, but it's kind of the catalyst of everything. Is this white guy? Well, I know Japan and the Portuguese had like some type of relationship, but then I think another guy comes from Spain and he kind of talks about, if people learn this, like in world history, the different types of Christians, the Protestants and I forgot the other ones and he comes in he's letting them know hey, these guys that you think are like, you know, these Christians and stuff that's going to be your friend and not your friend and trying to pretty much take over and I think that happens, I think. Episode three I kind of fell asleep because I was watching this stuff later than I had been up all the time, but from the parts that I paid attention to, it was very good Pacing, cinematography, attention to detail. I think the lead actor said like he had to make that the network had to make certain concessions for him to want to actually do the show, and so I'm going to actually go read up on Shogun and be able to explain to y'all better, but just know that, oh, and let me go solo. Y'all know BMF is back. Okay, episode two just dropped. Yeah, episode two just dropped. You know they got Nio and two chains in there and overall I just watched BMF laugh. But it's a horribly written show because I mean they can't really make it true because all the stuff that happened with it. So it's kind of like, eh, we're just going to start making up stuff because the stuff that happens in BMF doesn't make sense at all. Like Terry trying to talk to somebody who is already married and already and has a kid on the way, is that like it's a lot of crazy stuff that's happening to BMF. So it's not the best show I ever test might watch. But if you just want to laugh at like stupid stuff and being the same with you know little meat saying I can't go get the groceries for my cousin, like chicken trying to be a myth, it is.
Speaker 3:the acting is so terrible for me. I don't even I can get jiggy with the storyline, but the acting is just not believable. Not from all the characters, but for a majority of the characters that are on the show, like two chains. Like when me and my fiance were watching, I just sitting there like just talking about, just trash about him the whole time, Like I don't know why they send back and keep his dress. It just the acting was horrible, like when they had Snoop Dogg on there last season. I feel like he did a good job, but like all these camos very true, you, just you should have some sort of acting foundation, because it's literally like anybody can get on the show. That's how it feels.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the people that care to show is Lucille Charles and really DaVinci.
Speaker 3:I love Charles. Any movie that he's in movie, tv show, anything I'm watching, he off the chain.
Speaker 1:Speaking of that, I like him. He always pray, either like somebody who trifling or a good father.
Speaker 3:He knew a good father always what was that Lincoln. Heights, yes, yes, such a good.
Speaker 1:I was thinking Heights during the pandemic, so I definitely it was definitely pretty good.
Speaker 3:But then you know he was go ahead and it was. It was like it's such an old show but it's still a good watch today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely he. And then, because you know, that's when Chadwick was on that show, and then after that, I believe he was the son of Denzel on fences. So, yeah, but before we get into, like, our first official topic, let me go ahead and play this ad real quick for our response, and we'll be back. This video is being brought to you by leveled up and tech. Even if you have no experience in cloud computing, level up and tech is here to help you get into the cloud. Now you may be asking yourself why should I get in the cloud? Well, let me show you so. A cloud computing engineer can make anywhere from 80,000 to $200,000 per year. Now, cloud computing will create almost a million new job demand for certain skills. One recent study predicted that there will be over 220,000 open cloud computing positions by 2025. Level up and tech has a six step process to guarantee your success. Here are some reasons why you should choose level up and tech, and here are some of the things you will learn. You'll learn about server config and troubleshooting. The AWS cloud infrastructure is cold scripting, containerization and much, much more. You can check out many of their testimonials on their website, and they post testimonials on LinkedIn as well. Here's where some of the former students of level and tech work at and articles you can see them in and hear their coaches. If you're ready to get your cloud career started, click the link in my bio to learn more about level up and tech. This video is being brought to you by level up and tech. I forgot I was going to loop. Let me take that loop off. There we go. All right, now we are back, man, let me see if I can wait here by the end. There we go. Yeah, I figured to fix it to let me just do it like no stop. But anyways, I think this first topic is a good one that you want to talk about, because I know it was on your topic thing and maybe one day we'll have a producer so they can do this. I don't have to fiddle with all this crap. So I know this is a one of content for you. You were saying like everything is supposed to be peaches and cream on all these day in the life videos, which is like what a real day in life videos that people actually struggling and people getting on their nerves. So take it away as far as I guess what kind of has set you off with this one.
Speaker 3:Well, because that's where I started, I guess, when I first kind of got or was before I got into the industry. That is what those videos were, what I was watching. So I was trying to figure out like what to expect. And then obviously, of course, watching those videos, you're under the impression that you are just every day is going to be a good day had breakfast, had lunch, went to the gym, did this, did that, took a long lunch, walk the dog. They're not actually talking about how they in PowerShell fighting for their life. They're not talking about how the script keeps failing. They're not talking about how they don't understand concepts. They are not talking about teammates who are not wanting to help them. They're not talking about what's actually happening. And on, when it comes to a day in the life, of course you don't. Every day is in a bad day, and I'm not saying every day is a rough day, but I am saying that I don't. I feel like there's a lack of transparency as to what actually happens in a day in the life, especially depending on your role. If you're a software engineer, that code isn't coding every time Like you're not. It's not as easy as 123. It's not as easy as you know, you snap in your fingers and it's done. Now it's lunchtime. So I feel like, from that perspective, the people who are watching those videos are not being told and they're not seeing when that person is feeling vulnerable, when they're frustrated, when they can't figure something out. And obviously, you know, with social media and sharing what you do on a day to day basis, they want things to be more what's, they want things to be cute, they want things to be pretty. They don't know, they don't really want to dive in and talk about when things are actually ugly, when things are hard, when you're frustrated, when you're crying, like there will be situations that will push you and test you to your limits where you'll feel like why am I doing this? Am I even supposed to be doing this? And because when you're starting out, it's a lot of, it's a lot of, you have to be patient with yourself and you have to be okay with not knowing. Even when you do get more experience in the field, you still have to be okay with not knowing. And that's not talked about in these day in the life videos. It's they're showing the soft life as a day in the life of them working and it's just not realistic, especially starting out. When you start out, you might feel like you made the worst decision of your life because things don't make sense to you yet. But they will eventually begin to make sense, you know as you're working.
Speaker 1:Nice, nice, nice. That's why I pride myself on having one of the few realest day of the life videos on YouTube, because people actually go through it and like, oh, thank you for this. It's just so helpful. Like you don't know how many other videos I see somebody is working out or to eat in, but it's like what do you actually do at work?
Speaker 3:And you might not even get a lunch. Let's talk about that. You might not even get a lunch.
Speaker 1:But I think it's a couple things. Some people don't know how to do it. I mean, I remember I did one. So I did it like a day in the life when I used to go downtown and work, but it kind of was just like showing like the optics of like where I was going, like the new building and stuff like that. I couldn't really show much, because one thing I hated about the office even having a personal space, like have you ever seen the open concept like desk plans where, like, everybody's machine is like this, so there's no dividers? I don't like spaces like that.
Speaker 3:So that's what that's like. I have a personal space.
Speaker 1:That's the reason I hate going to the office but there are people that try to show up with that. That material does not get a lot of love. Yeah because people want to see the soft.
Speaker 3:They want to see the soft life. They want to see the good stuff. But let me preface this with saying because I know how y'all like to pop off in the comments Obviously there are things that you can't show, you know, due to confidentiality reasons, which your employer NDA, so on. I'm not saying get on here and tell us what line of the code didn't work, but I am saying be vulnerable and saying that you were struggling with code. Be vulnerable and saying that you were struggling with X, y and Z and talk about how you got through it so that people can better understand. So yeah, not saying show your screen and talk about actually what's going on, but be more transparent about things when they do get tough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think some people may, some people can't. You just know how it is, which your work and stuff like that. Like my episode is what? Three or four years old now and I just at that time had learned how to edit. So I just had stuff play down the screen and I didn't really know how to do the voiceover is good, so I just was putting text on there and it seemed to work. Like I showed just the investigation, I showed the meetings I would do with different like teams and I was like, hey, I'm gonna keep you to being with y'all. If y'all expecting me to go chase a lot of fires today, today, when it I much rather to be like this versus me actually having to chase a fire, like that means something bad is going on. So now I'd agree with you Like I think. I think a lot of that content is slowly pivoting away. It used to do really good years ago on TikTok. I don't think it does the best that it used to do on there, even though YouTube is just now like kind of coming along with shorts, but people still go to TikTok to see like the good content. Let me move this thing over.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we mostly see people getting ready for work, so they're skincare routine. Them packing their work bag, them doing everything but working.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I think that's the fun, I think I will say that's the mystique of it, because people are not knowing what they want to do. But I always tell like clients hey, go find some real day in the life videos so you can see whatever they're doing may interest you, and if it doesn't, then that's the real issue. Yep, let me see. I mean, I don't think I'm in banners. I need to go pick the brand. What is on our hot topics list? Okay, so what made you want to talk about this one? Because you can give me some context. You didn't have a link for this one right here. Our security assessment is really worth it.
Speaker 3:Remember when I sent you that that LinkedIn post.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was connected to this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, so I seen this LinkedIn post. I think I actually have it.
Speaker 1:open it up now so we can, we can share this game and, I guess, talk about it. Let's present. All right, tim, can you see this?
Speaker 3:Yes, I can, there we go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not thinking of this, but go ahead.
Speaker 3:So he says cybersecurity maturity assessments are nonsense. They are not required by regulations or standards, yet they dominate cybersecurity practice. Why? Because they are profitable. I'm not going to read the whole thing. You guys can see it, but my I do a lot of assessments, so I feel like I can speak on this topic very well. I feel like they are worth it, especially when it comes to giving a baseline. Now I feel like there should be some foundational things covered before you dive into the assessment. So I feel like you know whoever the customer is, they should know, like they should know, what standards this is, by what guidelines this is backed by, what's it based off of? How did you come up with the things that are part of the assessment? That should be explained? And then you should also be able to explain, like, whatever the deliverables are and what the customer can expect to receive. Now, one thing he talked about in the LinkedIn post was like the scoring, and I can't agree with that. I can agree with the fact that the scoring needs to be a little bit more defined, because if you give someone, let's say it's the scale of one through five, and you give them a three, like what does that actually mean, and a lot of the times customers are like well, where do I stand compared to you know, other companies and other organizations that are in my industry? And it's not apples for apples it everybody's environment is different, you know. So that's a question that you do get a lot. I do think that they're worth it, especially being able to identify some things or even controls or recommendations that you just you didn't know about. Because things are constantly changing so much, it does become tough to keep up with what's actually new and what new features you need to go in and implement or be aware of when it comes to the products that you're using. So I do think they're beneficial, very much so, especially when it comes to giving you a baseline. If you get an assessment done and you find out you don't have MFA established for all of your global admins, then that's a big step that you need to take and remediate to strengthen your security. So it's just different things like that. I know that there's different ways you can go about it. Like the article talked about questionnaires and how questionnaires are boring. They can be boring, but what type of questions are you asking? What's the intent behind the questions? You have questionnaires that you can do, where you're just talking with someone and saying do you have MFA established? Do you have it for this role? Do you have how? How are you connecting to X, y and Z? Do you have these break glass accounts? Do you have emergency access accounts? How are you storing the credentials? So it's just so much stuff that you can dive into when it comes to assessments. But outside of there, just being questionnaires, where you're having a conversation with the customer and you're writing down, basically their responses, you can also run a script on their environment and get way more detail. So of course that's going to be more beneficial because it's you can tell me that you have MFA established, but the script is going to tell me if you have it established. So you have questionnaires, scripts and then you also can do manual checks, so you're actually taking a look in their environment and seeing how they have things configured as well. So I feel like, depending upon you, know which methods you use to conduct that assessment and then also how you go about explaining the findings are a big piece in that, and I feel like a lot of the times people are getting assessments but they are not necessarily understanding what the purpose of the assessment is. They know it's an assessment and they want to get that baseline, but they're not really diving into deep With the understanding or even asking any appropriate questions on what is this supposed to help me do? Okay, now we're done with the assessment. What am I supposed to do with this? And that's also a part of the assessment, like, what is the end goal for the customer? Where are you giving them? It's obviously not an audit, it's an assessment. So, yeah, that's those are my thoughts on it. I think that they they are definitely worth it, especially so that you can have a baseline and you can gauge, you know what you need to do to continue to strengthen your security. And then I think some are even beneficial if you do them year over year so that you're able to see your progress or your lack of.
Speaker 1:You smoke that. Yeah, I mean, I don't have nothing to disagree with it. I know from my end every time you're dealing with an incident you're like why, why why? why and these incidents don't even become widespread. It's just the stuff internally that's happening and you're like bro, this could have been avoided. My guest and I yesterday were talking about how in his environment there are some servers that the server owners do not want to put EDRs on and we was like why? I was like I was going to take it something to actually happen to those servers, dealing on how to, and those are the things that were, like I said already, probably previously brought up in the security assessment and that's why I always tell people like most incidents are just negligence and you know, risk acceptance at that point.
Speaker 3:You will be. You will be shocked at the stuff that there are. We don't need to focus on that. Like what? Who told you that you didn't need to focus on that? Like it would just be amazed by the amount of people who think they know it all.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, that's the. That's the big one right there. Know it all? I want to. I think this is a good one, but we have a video that we were supposed to view 26 minutes more. Okay, let me up that real quick. Yeah, we have a video that we're supposed to react to last time and we ran into a lot of snafus, so I'm going to cue the video up in the background. Wow, okay, dude made it private. However, I know of a way to do this. He thought he was a smart man. So don't worry, guys, I'm working it through the destiny. When I hold y'all over real quick, I know who to go to review all the stuff, because he already touched on it and it's nothing that that guy can do about it.
Speaker 3:I think that I'm going back to the assessment thing just because I have one more comment. I also think that you should make sure that you have the appropriate teams present for the assessment. A lot of the times when you're trying, especially if it's a questionnaire, if it's a questionnaire that you're doing and you get you know to the location, or you get to the meeting and they're like oh well, we weren't able to get x, y and z, but you know for a fact that x, y and z needs to be there, then you're not setting yourself up for success. You're not able to get the accurate results because you don't know that information this person does, and if they're not here to give me the information that I need, then I can't accurately let you know where you stand. So that's another piece. But yeah, I do a lot of assessments. So I felt like that was a good topic to cover and when I seen that post I understood his side, but I didn't agree with it at all. But it was a really good post for sure, especially to get your juices flowing and to get you kind of thinking about what is important.
Speaker 1:But so I found a workaround. Let me go back to presenting. Shout out to a tech G. I don't know him personally, but I had already. I was already made aware of the video we were supposed to review because this guy had reviewed some of it. And let me see how we look on the screens, if I need to make it bigger or not. Okay, I think that's fine, so I'm going to. Let's react to it. This is where the cyber security is actually no. Boring this guy over here and we're just going to listen to some stuff you got to say and then we'll react to it. Let's go. Anybody that's in cyber security the boring.
Speaker 4:I'm not a programmer. That's not what I do. I posted in my community tab a video from a YouTuber named LS3. He is a coder. So this dude I interact with on YouTube quite often. He just started off his IT tech channel where he's into the whole programming and coding and all that Like that's his lane. So anytime people ask me about coding and that's not my lane, my lane is I mostly came up doing I'm going to skip past it.
Speaker 1:I don't care too much about your lane. But also this kind of goes back into like one of my other episodes, where people are talking like coding or whatever, but if someone practices with one area being fun and the other one not being fun, that means they may have a ulterior motive. So let's see where he's talking about the structures. That's for a couple years, and then come on, bro, because I can only play like 60 seconds at a time. Anyway, you can't make over abundance of job. This is going to sound horrible because he's not letting him talk.
Speaker 4:Cyber security, so we're going to go ahead and check it out. See what he ain't talking about.
Speaker 6:Test automation is boring. Yes, talking about that, I had another conversation. Getting to talk to people is amazing the way I think it's completely different than a lot of people. I had another girl come in. We had a conversation this week and she's telling me about she wants to do cyber security. I'm sorry to say to you guys, anybody that's in cyber security or thinking about cyber security, that's boring. That is the most boring job you could think of. Anything that has to do with IT, devops, cyber security. That's boring and you're always going to need a company to come and give you a check. You heard him.
Speaker 1:Now you see how Asinati, you know how, you know how he knew this was stupid, because the video is private now.
Speaker 3:Because the whole bucket cyber security is not even one thing. It's literally a bucket of different things that you can do. So it's insane to say that. And if he is saying that, I say that it's just not for him. It's just not for him. He couldn't figure it out, it wasn't fun to him, he didn't have a good time doing it.
Speaker 1:That's not why he's trying to sell something.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, and that's the way you sell it. That's the way you go about selling it.
Speaker 1:This is dirty macking, but for tech, dirty taking, that's what it is Dirty taking. Let me see. Let's go back to it to see what else that he's going to have to say. Let me see if I can bring him back to the stage.
Speaker 4:All right, let's see. He says cyber security, devops even that stuff is pretty much boring. Now, like I just said in my opening monologue, I actually agree with them. I actually agree. The thing is, when it comes to cybersecurity, especially when you're dealing with a bunch of newbies a lot of newbies into IT they get their ideas about cybersecurity based off of what they see in TVs and movies. They might go watch what's a good IT cybersecurity movie I'm trying to think of off the top of my head. Anyways, they'll think of some IT movie where you got somebody climbing, repelling from the rafters, doing backflips over laser beams so that they can go into the data center secretly, plug some stuff up and put a network tap on some. Then they walk out and they're suit and tie and they're back at the party like they're James Bond. Are they watching a movie of some hacker or some random IT person? They're sitting in this room with glowing LED lights all over the place and they just click-clack and they type it away, yada, yada, yada, breaking in the stuff in milliseconds. They think that's the life of the average IT person or the cybersecurity person. No, that's not the life of the average IT person. You know what? The life of the average IT. I'm just going to say cybersecurity person or whatever. You know what the life of the average cybersecurity person is. You go to work, you log into your systems, you run your checks, put your reports together, go attend a stand-up meeting talking about whatever the heck happened on the network the night before the shift before and what all training that you got coming down. If you got to do some type of company-wide training got to do this, you got to do that. Go back to your desk. You got your systems up here, or one monitor. You got your ticketing system over here. Another monitor. You got your scene system or your SIM system over here Another monitor. You got some other system over here. You got snort or something open over here. You got all these little systems. You got another system where you got Amazon, youtube, netflix or whatever the heck it is that you're into looking at and surfing on the internet. Here's the thing Out of all those monitors, which monitor do you think the average IT cybersecurity person is going to spend most of his or her time staring at? The majority of the time they're going to be staring at the monitor that has YouTube videos on it. Are they over there shopping on Amazon?
Speaker 1:That is definitely not true. That is definitely not true, and I don't know much about. Okay, I have to add you back to the stage. I don't know what happened to you.
Speaker 3:I don't know Something froze, but I'm back.
Speaker 1:Okay. Anyways, that's not true at all. I don't know much about tech G I will say boy, he's not wrong. There were times when I had jobs where I wouldn't do a lot of work, but that didn't mean it was born. That just meant one or two things. We weren't properly alerting on things or just dead, and I'm always the person that's skeptical hey, we ain't checking for the security to check with.
Speaker 3:So I don't. I have had jobs that were boring to me, but I wouldn't say cybersecurity is boring at all. And he was talking about one role Everybody doesn't do. It sounds like he was talking about working in the stock. Everybody doesn't work in the stock, works in cybersecurity.
Speaker 1:So yeah, but even then though, like I said, most of the time, if they were going to say you were just watching YouTube, he's describing someone that possibly works night shift.
Speaker 3:Or yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because night shift we know that the alert volume is low, but I mean it can get busy unless you can just finish your way to just do different things, which is quite possible as well. But everybody doesn't work out of a sim. Some people actually got projects they're working on, they're doing research, like especially doing like security research or third intel. That's pretty fun. A lot of people know how to search the dark web and they're going through there and they're trying to find things. They're looking at the report. So every week we begin like all these different vulnerabilities, like, hey, we didn't see if this isn't a viper, this isn't a viper, this is a viper. And it's some environments where, hey, if you ain't, if you ain't drinking your red bull that morning, you're going to need it Because it's a long one, just like he was talking about the bar shell thing.
Speaker 3:I want to know what he's selling. So, okay, cybersecurity is boring. Okay, what are you saying it's not boring to do?
Speaker 1:Well, I think the what you call it do. I don't take G-cell stuff, but he's not talking about it in a bad way, it's a Oops, where are you?
Speaker 3:Me.
Speaker 1:There we go. No, I'm getting the hang of this in real time. Let's go to. If you're going to let him talk some more.
Speaker 4:The build. You know we've been at videos. Thanks for cool Now, even though I was in the art type of way we can go out.
Speaker 1:I know what he did. He did this the style of so is this one? And then he has this one. Where is it? Oh, this might be the good one. This actually might be a good topic. Interest you in coding? It might be a good topic. I'm going to go 1.5 because he's talking too much. That's not it. Bear with me, guys, if someone is talking about the checks or not more, that's actually what I want to talk about. There we go.
Speaker 4:Entrepreneur.
Speaker 1:We're done with it. We'll come back to something else. But that dude, the video guys that we actually want to react to. The dude made the video private and it's probably somewhere that I want to really get on because I was a subscriber sent to me. He's like yo. I want you to react to that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he gave us the mini-merks too.
Speaker 1:Yes, he was serious about it. 2016 and this is when he says this, this and this. But I think that dude got a lot of pushback from it because he knew it was stupid. Yeah, especially when you start thinking about just even the ways of everyday life, how cybersecurity is not born Like okay, how are we going to stop AI? How are we going to make sure that the AI person is a real person and not somebody trying to do harm to somebody?
Speaker 3:Yeah, somebody trying to steal 25 million from you.
Speaker 1:Exactly. I think we'll move along too, so we're supposed to do that. So I went out of the order for that one, but I know this was a fun one, because I definitely got funny stories about this. Where is it? I'm just here, is it? Yeah, stop, we're in the link.
Speaker 3:It's just Because relax. Relax when you get an email. Stop looking, listen Before you cross the street Look to the left, look to the right, and then you move your feet. That's the song that I teach to kids when they're walking across the street, so that they know how to look both ways. But that's what people need to do when they get these emails Relax Before you start clicking on things. Who is it from? Did your? Is your? If this is your work email, does your employer let you know that this is from somebody external? If it is from somebody external, move with caution. Are you expecting an email from this person? How do they even get your email address? Just calm down when you get emails. Calm down. I know we have a million a day, but before you go clicking on things, take a look at the email and see if it looks suspicious. Do you think it could be fishing? Even if you don't think it's fishing, reported it's fishing. If it's not, it'll come back to you. But I feel like we are so in the phase of moving so quick, moving so quick, and it's not a good thing, especially because the end user is the weakest link in the organization. So if you aren't proceeding or moving cautiously, then you can be clicking on malware, then you can be exploiting vulnerabilities that are on your system, then you can be a victim of identity theft, like there are so many different things that can happen from you just randomly clicking on links. Calm down, stop looking, listen, before you cross the street. Look to the left, look to the right, and then you move your feet, and move your feet means and then you start interacting. Then you start interacting with the email. Don't just start clicking on stuff. It's just not worth it.
Speaker 1:Now what's funny is I feel like that, look to the left, look to the right and you say, well, use your feet, and then you move your feet, then you move your feet. I feel like that's going to be a sound. But yeah, you know, most of the time you get the same. Everyone gets the same spam email. Some people are trying to get into your Facebook. Hey, somebody just tried to log on here. The thing when they get you is sometimes you got to make sure when you check this out, are you fully awake? Because a friend of mine she was explaining to me how I think to her Facebook pages or something I had. I think she thought it was Facebook. She clicked it real fast out of panic and before she knew it there was an error account. And not only that, those same attackers kept changing the email and stuff even after her working with like meta. So it's really I can say it's easier said than done, but it is.
Speaker 3:It is easier said than done, but you still have to think in your head. Be cautious. I'm telling you this from experience. I fail for fishing campaigns. Okay, I fell for them, yes, so I know to slow down Now. I'm reporting in this fishing. I don't care what it is. It just looks suspicious. I think I told this story before when I got a gift card from Starbucks from work and I reported it as fishing, because why would you be sending me a gift card and you ain't said there wasn't an announcement made? So it's better to report something that is a false positive than you to not report it, interact with it and something happens to your account or something happens to your organization, do you? Want to be the one that's responsible for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as Cat Williams said, Friday after next don't be sorry, Be careful.
Speaker 3:He didn't say that. He didn't say. He said oh, be careful Right.
Speaker 1:We're trying to keep it PG, since these good folks meant to go to church later on. But so I know, hey, y'all know, cat Williams ran like a full nine.
Speaker 3:I've seen it Fastest man in my ever seen.
Speaker 1:Fastest 50 year old I know, shout out to shout out to mobile street boys, very young out there doing the thing with Cat Williams. Like I said, somebody put a sometime on the screen. I said I don't care what they say, more than I'm safe for now, we roll over. For now that's what I'm rocking. I'm with cat. Did you see that this is a topic that just thought about the top of the head, that you watch Cat Williams and Joe Rogan, yet I seen some clips of it on TikTok but I didn't actually watch it.
Speaker 3:Watch it but it seems, from what I've seen, it kind of seemed like Joe was like doing a lot of questioning of him, like he didn't know.
Speaker 1:It's just I don't listen to Joe Rogan that much, but it was just regular conversation. I think Joe's big into like conspiracy theories and stuff and so cats able to hang with him on that because they both know like different things. And I was talking about how the actually best credence to Cat Williams and he read all these books and he broke it down on Joe Rogan. He said I know people are thinking like I'm over exaggeration when I said I read all these books. But he said you got to think about this. I think he said he grew up like a Jehovah's Witness and he said for years he never went to a birthday, he wasn't able to watch TV, he wouldn't ever do a lot of stuff, he said, but eight hours a day he had books at his disposal and he said sometimes he had to get another book to finish another book, to finish another book. So he said within that I started reading so many books because I was trying to figure out how to understand what I'm reading. So when you go like that, I think you can read that many books and it shows. It shows he's well versed in like a lot of topics or as like people say, I'm really out of topics, so I think it was pretty cool. It was my first time listening to that. I like different things because you know all the raw rice fun and. But he said you have a leech to losers. That's not like you.
Speaker 3:He said, so you have an unnatural allegiance to lose.
Speaker 1:Exactly that's it. That's what I'm going to send next time I get a rejection email from a job, I'll plot to shout out to Nate. Matter of fact, Nate posted that on LinkedIn and that was funny, so I couldn't take that. Before he posted this, I was like dang dang Nate. I know the community one was a good one for you. I think that is a good one to talk about. That's something I actually talked about in the podcast episode yesterday. So how to build a community in the field.
Speaker 3:I think this is very important, especially when you're first starting out, and I'm not saying that you need to have 17 friends, but even if one person, one person, made the difference for me me having one person who was equally as confused as I was, who had some of the same questions. We share some of the same struggles. So, like, we still connect, we still talk a lot when it comes to, you know, news articles, even just being able to stay in the field with each other, sending each other different videos, news articles, linkedin posts, tiktok, anything that you can see that's related, you know, to the industry. Have there been any new regulations put in place? Are you guys talking about oh, I was struggling with X, y and Z. I found this resource. You should check it out Just having someone to kind of play your ideas off of and to kind of make sure that you guys are immersed together, sharing your struggles, sharing what's happening, so that you are able to continue to grow, because we're better together than we are apart, and that's kind of how I see it. But I think it's really important and you can do, you can build. Start with people when you're if you're a student, if you're a student, start with your classmates. You know you got to do a lot of discussions when you're in school, so you know, maybe connecting with those individuals on LinkedIn, maybe you feel comfortable enough sharing your contact information with someone, so if you're struggling, you guys can have a voice call. Or if you guys are needing to jump on a meeting and share your screen and talk through some, some things and or even just explaining things to each other, I think that's important. And also connecting with people who are in the field, whether they are a part of your inner circle or not, but just being immersed in the field, seeing some of the content and the subjects that they're that they're talking about, is also important. Connecting with your professors If you're not in the, if you're not a student, then some alternatives can be to join any like social clubs, so any cybersecurity clubs, tech clubs, going to any meetups, even hosting your own. If you have a few people in your area, it doesn't have to be anything major. We're going to go to Applebee's. We're going to talk for an hour about what's going on with us lately, just making sure that you are staying connected in that you have that support there. So if their network eventually becomes your network or if they learn something, they can share it out with you. But another benefit that you get from building that community is being able to actually, you know, receive resources from these people. So maybe they send you a job referral, maybe they make an introduction to the hiring manager, maybe they introduce you to someone on the team so you can understand, you know what that job is like. But there is a ton of benefit of building your community out in the field.
Speaker 1:I agree. I agree. I know for me a lot of things that you guys don't see. In the back end I'm doing a lot of work, networking, getting opportunities that I wouldn't get because I built the community and, like you said, it starts with one person. For me it was a little different because I did most of this new community I built through the pandemic, so most of it is done from this Twitter, instagram, facebook consultations but I mean, if you're internal and you want to stay somewhere, that's a really good place to do it. Find somebody who's some of what you want to call these people a mover and shaker or something that got a good reputation there, that can mentor you, that connected everybody else and get them on your side and they'll help you. Now don't be a hindrance like do your thing, but you got to be visible. You got to find people that you can learn from. One of the things we were talking about yesterday is how the possibilities, everything opened up in your mind once you discover different things based on who you have conversations with, because a lot of times we're limited based on our own thoughts, because we have been exposed to it, and in getting a community that helps you with that especially. You also don't want to have a community where, like you're the smartest person, we want all different types of people in that community and to where everybody can learn something from somebody else. That way everybody's being helpful, versus you just wanting to be the smartest person or nobody's helping nobody, so you're really just wasting time. That's like some of the scene where people need to get a little bit better with their community. But that's kind of like my two cents I wanted to add on that.
Speaker 3:I like the idea that you said to have people essentially on different levels or on a different part of the journey when it comes to working in the field, Because you especially if you're starting out, if you are because you spent a lot of time I spent a lot of time being frustrated because I just didn't understand a lot of things, but finding someone who was also as equally frustrated and who was struggling with the same things made me feel like, okay, it's not just me and we can do this together. So if I learn something that I know that we were struggling with, I'm sure it will be you, and I know it's going to be vice versa.
Speaker 1:Agreed, thank you. So this thing gave me what I wanted. All right, one second. There we go. So I found some stuff I forgot, like I never sent you, like all this stuff. I think I shared some of this stuff with you, but here go some funny stuff, guys. We're going to talk about it's Twitter. I guess you can call it like Twitter T or wherever you want to call it, but let's share the screen and I think this is it All right. Here's the first one we're going to talk about. She says they fried out on tech people and now them apps just be down. I don't know how to bet, but it's funny. But I can see how people see it that way. What you think?
Speaker 3:I could also see how people see it that way. I mean, things have always been happening in the industry, but a lot has happened since the mass layoffs last year, so I could totally see the correlation from the outside looking in.
Speaker 1:Agreed, I'm going to go back to the first tab, all right. So this is the other one, the fake person right here. I've covered her a while ago. I want to. I'm making her famous a little bit, but y'all got to stop being dumb. If a career coach is talking like this on their page, they're saying stupid stuff. Why would you ever give them money? I have evidence of a person who supported this person. I don't know how much it was to wait 45 days for a resume LinkedIn turnaround Like that's stupid. She told me, if you have any affinity towards lying, cheating or anything in the dark arts, you'll be better off channeling rather than trying to get rid of it completely. Lying your resume, cheating on the test not people still from hotels. Who says stuff like this?
Speaker 3:Lying your resume. Lying your resume, lying your resume. I am not a subscriber of this at all. I think it's very dumb for you to do, especially once you get into that interview and they start asking you quite if you put on your resume that you're technical and then they start asking you technical questions and you can't answer them If you put down that you use all these tools and they start asking you in which scenario would you utilize this, this and this? Or they started talking about specific features or settings and you can't. I feel like him, scrub back up. That's how I feel when I read that, like that's literally, yeah, that's please, please, don't lie. This isn't. This isn't an industry where you're lying, saying you had six years of customers. Be like. You don't want to put yourself in a position where you can be held accountable and responsible for for things because you lied.
Speaker 1:And if you are going to lie, know your life.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You're lying, because I just put down and it don't stick. So this was the last one. I'm going to bookmark this, but it was pretty cool. Let's read the Wall Street Journal, thank you, said. Now companies are ruthlessly focused on efficiency and that means managers are charged with reinstituting more biting former invitations. Good luck getting through that at a time when the very word feedback can be triggering for some. Nearly four and 10 employees who received the lowest grades from managers last year had rated themselves as highly valued by the organization, according to data from bamboo HR, which allows almost two millions of assessments for Wall Street Journal. Delivering a reality check to an overconfident, under performer is one of the toughest tasks bosses face, because there's no guaranteed critics will click. I had somebody who I write told me I heard your feedback by. Disagree with it, says Sarah sense of Prano, associate director of client experience at movable Inc. A marketing software company. This is going to tie into the other topic, but he says an underrated component of the great resignation. Let me zoom in real quick. Also known as the zipper era are the effects of employees versus employer expectations. Employees were told that they were the best things to slice bread and they were compensated like it by companies just so they can recruit and retain them and win the world talent. But it's not the employees fault. You had companies, including very reputable things, drastically increase the heck and my 50% within two years. You can't do that without lowering the bar for talent at least a little bit. The math, just saying math. What we're seeing now in my eyes is not just a correction of companies trying to right size their orgs for maximum efficiency, but also resetting the bar for the standard of talent. This may also explain why you see certain companies lay people off only to repost similar jobs. Yeah, I agree with what he said he ate Definitely ate that part up. Which I'll be saying he ate and left no crumbs.
Speaker 3:I was just about to say that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree, that's a lot of times to like. That's what I said. When I said some of y'all that clip I went if I really go viral, but a lot of people like it on ticked I was like some y'all shouldn't have them jobs anyway because y'all just got hired to get hired, and people were literally on tick talking everywhere saying they weren't doing any work. So, of course, like a lot of y'all, like kind of me, I didn't get in it, y'all didn't get in and learn how to work hard and learn a job, and so some y'all fighting for your life right now, that's exactly what's happening. Yep, I hate it for you, but you should have stopped trying to take the easy way in and actually try to be valuable, because some of y'all are valuable and some of y'all not. That's what I would just say is people that I've seen that got in in 2020 and they went like this Some of y'all, that's y'all. That's y'all For real.
Speaker 3:It's the for me.
Speaker 1:I actually this makes. Let me go into this, this topic with the Amazon pips, because I think this one actually would fit that perfectly, coming off of that Twitter stuff we just talked about.
Speaker 3:Definitely.
Speaker 1:Brighton line. So this person says I worked in Amazon HR, was a disgusted at what I was seeing in performance. Improvement plans did not got put on the pip and I had to quit. Listen. If you see the pit, it's time to dip One more time. If you see the pit, it's time to dip. Now I want to see. I'm not going to read everything. So they worked at Amazon HR for seven years Dang and not only did they administer pivots, but it was eventually brought to their attention that they were going to be going through a pit. They made a mistake of doing that with me. There wasn't a lot of information just to justify poor performance. The pivot goal was a straight across the board a 6% number and as a HR person, that is a hefty figure and it was driven hard by the HRVPs to show the metrics daily, weekly, to make sure we knew who was on the pipeline not to improve but who was in the pipeline to get out. There wasn't a lot of interest in improving people. You might be cutting some prime choice with the fat and they were okay with that. They wanted that number. The managers who had to implement it until they were on a pivot I would say majority of them hated it because one, they didn't have the skills to be able to manage performance that soon out of the gate. A lot of our managers were brand new. The first thing you had to do was work with the pivot consultants. So that was somebody in HR besides the manager's business partner and you talk about if it was the right time or if it was the wrong time to pivot someone. Let's see, I'm trying to just go through here. I was saying 80% of my time ended up being focused one way or another on the pivot. Either the pivot appealed or the pivot worked. That workers, managers had to do. And look, I'm not going to say you're going to ever find somewhere a lockdown in words, but the idea is, if you're putting somebody in a pivot, you make that so damn hard that they don't get out.
Speaker 3:Man, that's the part right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:What is?
Speaker 1:this. Hmm, this is interesting. Later, when the pivot came back, we had to stack rack. When we had to stack rank all of our employees, the way we broke it down, we caught a top tier which was, you know, maybe 15 to 20% by the time it worked out. Then you had the middle and then you had the bottom tier. The bottom tier was about 20 to 25%, maybe even up to 30. The guidelines that they expressed publicly may be different, because we also work to make sure that we had more than that, because some went bad or went out the rails and we can exit them for whatever reason. I have PTSD. I was discussing that what I was seeing from the pivot process, this process alone has given me post traumatic stress disorder. It impacted me so much as a person I had to get out of there. When it was justified, it was easier to push someone out. If it's deserved, then there's no problem, but when it wasn't deserved, you had people crying and begging and they couldn't understand. You have visa sponsored employees who, once we pivoted them and move them out, no longer were authorized to work in the United States. So they had to make immediate plans to get out of the country and it's a long process to get sponsored by another group. In the years I was there, I never, ever, ever had any performance issue given to me, not even anything close to being serious. I had no worries because I asked for feedback. All the time I'm like what can I do? How can I do better? I didn't ever want to be blindsided by the pivot myself, and what a lot of people did if they got the indication they were going to the job, if they were going down that track, was what they would transfer jobs right away. Some people were successful. A lot of people weren't. This is a long article.
Speaker 3:I feel like you touched on the good points. The one that I would really am frustrated by is the fact that you're is the fact that they're receiving criticism about things that they've never been critiqued on before. So it's kind of it's like a slap in the face, especially when you're actively trying to be better and do better. And like this person who both has said like they were constantly asking for feedback. So if you're always asking for feedback and then you're being told that you, oh, you're performing well, there's nothing more you need to do, and then two, three months later you get put on a performance improvement plan, it doesn't the math isn't math thing and it feels like a slap in the face, especially for someone who is on a visa Like that's their life. These people have families, they have kids, they have a lot of. It's not right, man. It's not right.
Speaker 1:That's how you need to move for yourself and your family, always, always. I think the biggest thing, though, I don't know why they were so shocked, because they know HR moves like this. Hrs they're to protect the company. So a lot of times you very well are missing some critical feedback that you need, but HR is not going to tell you. Until they give you a bit. He's like, well, why you ain't taking me ahead of time? That's literally what happened, so you just got to always keep that in mind. If you got a quote, unquote, real manager, sometimes she's got to do your due diligence and make some of your own HR friends See if they're going to put you on you know, on game before it's too late.
Speaker 3:Can you explain really quickly what stack ranking is for the people who may not know?
Speaker 1:As confused as you. I feel like it's a HR term.
Speaker 3:I will say it just jump with everybody together. Yeah, basically where they it's a list and you're either at the top of the list or you're at the bottom of the list. They're comparing all the employees and basically their performance to say these people are in the top 10% and these people are in the lower 10%. So like you're literally just like you play a game and you, let's say, you're playing a racing game and you're stacked in terms of first, second, third, fourth, that's what stack ranking?
Speaker 1:is Got it Makes sense, makes sense. Yeah, they just like I said, they just take numbers and put them down there. I think this was the last part. I went to John. They said during my performance evaluation, when it was clear I was on a pip, my manager shared criticisms are crazy. I didn't read this yet. I promise I didn't read this yet. Share criticisms that I never heard before. I said I've never heard anything in these comments coming to me ever. Essentially, it was a lot of made up stuff. I mean you could have put some truth to it. I've been late on a few assignments, but everybody's got some elements of things they can approve on in their work. My manager just chose to bring those out. Amazon broke down people into three categories. You were either top tier, middle of the pack or at least effective. Normally they won't tell you what they rated you. I'm like come on, I know this stuff is just as much as you do. I know the wording. You didn't put me in the medium category. We just admit you put me in the least effective category and I got my manager to admit that I wasn't put on a pivot. My manager wanted to work with me a little bit to see if I was going to commit to the job. They sat me down and said I can go on a pivot and leave right away or they work with me, obviously not having any job opportunities. I said look, I'm in it, let's try to get better and go from there. My manager took away all my direct reports and shelled me into a small box and said you can do this and try to work yourself out of it. Right after that I started putting the full push to get another job. I started interviewing. She said I actually had a headhunter that reached out to me. Originally I told her no, but then some of this stuff happened. I'm like, okay, let's revisit it. I got to the point where they offered me a job and I was going to quit. I had a huge stock investment coming up. There was no way I was going to rock the boat in that way, shape or form. I was trying to get to this date. That's an interesting thing. I think a lot of people are worried about that when they have some equity in the company and I want to leave.
Speaker 3:That part.
Speaker 1:There are ways you can negotiate your package to help out with some of that stuff too. I'm curious to see what they said they did If you walked away doing the pivot or any time before you had your investment, before it was there for you In this time zone, we're going to infer that her stuff had invested yet.
Speaker 3:Yep pretty much.
Speaker 1:I'm not talking a little bit of money, I'm talking I had a couple of hundred thousand dollars coming to me. I respect it. Listen, sometimes you got to play the long game. I wonder if she would have chose to leave. But they had just like visited faster for her and just let her get what was hers. I played along I'm good at playing along when I have to be. Then the money is in my account. The next day I caught my manager and told him I was signing. They blew a gasket. I like that, listen, absolutely blew a gasket because I told them that I was in it for the long run. I said look, you gave me no choice. You put this stuff against me. I'm not just going to sit there and wait for it to be dependent on you. You get to make the call whether I make it or not. My manager, or Superman, asked me when I was leaving. I said two weeks. They were incredulous that I wasn't giving them more respect. The biggest thing and I'm going to say this goes for many, many people that are put on the pivot. Is there what? No warning signs, there's no trailer communication saying you're underperforming. I mean, even if it's something that's, there was a hey, can you do better on this next time? I know suddenly I got zero negative feedback. I got the feedback that was rocking it and then all of a sudden the being this place is like huh. So that's pretty good, because you see that happen.
Speaker 3:I like the way they wrote that article. For sure it feels very personable.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah, it was a good article. I just tried to break it down and glad that she was on here to give me some commentary. It was the stack ranking thing. I was like, oh no, oh guys, I got my techie apparel hat. I got to get that link. So, yeah, I'm sure y'all go Shout out to my people techie apparel. But yeah, that was me. I thought I was killing it at McAfee, walked in, seen my coworker walking out with a box of this stuff. You already know this. That's a good sign. I could see, like, if I'm doing hindsight 2020, I could see why he got laid off, not saying he was a nice guy, but he didn't know anything security wise. Really a lot of us didn't. He wouldn't speak up in the meetings. He was older to me too, and I was like yo, do you know what to do outside of looking for one across? He said no. I said yeah, that's a problem. And I was only over there with the person who wasn't the manager and he was just putting me on game like, hey, do this and this. So at that time I'm over there pretty much building up a spreadsheet of like hey, man, we got all these rules, finding some downy to be here. Let's get rid of them. And nobody cared. I was like there's some and I should have negotiated my servers and stuff better. But it happens. But once, once your heart turns cold by a job, nobody's ever the same. No job will ever get that, that version of you, the version of you, but also just you, just being carefree of thinking like it would never be me. It's similar to like somebody probably not thinking they like ever get cheated on. It's kind of like that I can never get cheated on, I think that's it. It was like sometimes you got a spec is going to happen someday, but you just don't know when. It's just better not to find out. That's the only difference about like infighting, cheating on.
Speaker 3:Was this early in your career?
Speaker 1:Yeah, this was, this was what.
Speaker 3:Six years ago, and this is the transparency that you should be looking for from people who are sharing things about being in the field.
Speaker 1:Yeah, matter of fact, around this time in 2018, I still was unemployed and I thought I was about to go be the sock lead at Texas Interiors and then they kind of jerked me around. I actually talked about that on my latest podcast episode with Sinead, her husband, tair. So y'all make sure you go check that out, especially for people who got like a spouse. That's like working the tech. I made that for y'all, but you know it is what it is. I got to where I was supposed to go and that's the other part of the journey that people understand is like it's been. Let me go solo real quick because y'all are here this again on the pod that's coming up, so I'm going to tell y'all a little. It's not even a secret, but when it comes to getting the cybersecurity, or any job for that matter, sometimes this is right time, right place. Outside of all the claims of 45 days, 90 days, 180 days, whatever how many days they want to say, sometimes it's the right time, right place and it's your moment. So some of you are almost there and not realizing it's your moment yet and you're pretty much wanting to give up because you're seeing other people walking their moment. But sometimes you're got to be built up to handle what's about to be yours, and when that time comes, it's going to happen. And then you got to embrace it. I talked about my time moving away, moving out here to Dallas, moving my mind, saying, hey, I'm going to go get cybersecurity, make the sacrifice to leave a company type of party we were having at the office one day for the companies to work for and Addison, and went to this job fair for Intel MacV at the time. So that was the decision I can't go. I got something worked for them. I said, nah, this might be my way in. And, sure enough, that was my way into the company. And then since 2017, I've been in. Actually that was late 2016. And then I started working there March 2017. Since then, I've been a cyber. So and that's how it happened for me when I'm clicking in Shreveport Bozier, when I moved out here and kind of stuck to my plan and just made a decision to go all the way in. That's how I work for me. So a lot of y'all be telling me if you don't have kids, if you don't have a family or something, move, move for you. I'll be better. Move, move, move. We can. A lot of people watching Shout out to y'all.
Speaker 3:Hey put a one in the comment section.
Speaker 1:We'll put a one in the chat.
Speaker 3:If the comment section is good, we can put a one in the chat.
Speaker 1:Shout out to y'all man hey, put a one in the comment section, we'll put a one in the chat If the time missed you over, cause my body feels like it was six in the morning. I'm like what is going on?
Speaker 3:I want to kind of pivot on what you were saying, because I love everything you just said, but I also want people to stop comparing themselves to other people. Um, pretend like social media is a gift, but it can also be a curse as well. So don't look at what other people are doing and compare yourself to them. Stay focused on what your goals are and knocking your goals down, and also don't be afraid to take risk. Um, because this is, this is something that isn't just given to you. You aren't just given a job. You have to put in the word, especially if you want to make some good money and you want to live a good life. Like you have to put in, it becomes. It's a lifestyle. It's not just something that you can just learn how to do, and that's what you're going to do every single day, because it's always changing. So don't compare yourself to other people.
Speaker 1:Facts. Comparison is a thief of joy, and when you said it's a lifestyle, I thought about rich, homie Kwun and young, but too bad, we can't play it on the last day. What do you say? I put in a whole lot of work just to live this lifestyle.
Speaker 3:No, for real. You know what I mean. You tears, I've cried.
Speaker 1:To then go from the catalyst. I think really was getting in grad school. To be honest, I feel like once I decided to go and roll in grad school, like everything started popping off for me the right way, Like it was crazy. But that's also what made it cool. That's what made grad school fun. I had experience in the field and I had already had worked experience and I was in grad school. So that's what made grad school fun.
Speaker 3:Well, that wasn't fun for me, but it was fun afterwards.
Speaker 1:I didn't even know that UD had a cyber program by the time I went in. I just me and my friends me Vernon and my friend B Jax we all went to UD and I think those two did MBA. And then I chose the IT management Because I was like IT management is a little bit versatile. I said I already is a cyber. I was like I can just do that and I'll be versatile in case I want to do some management type stuff.
Speaker 3:If it were available, would you have done it then?
Speaker 1:I think so. I think it would have gave me some more tools to the tool belt, a little bit more classes I've been interested in. But I mean all the classes I did in tech management were like things I do now, like we're working on statements of works, working on getting buy-in from the company to get changes put in place. So I mean it's the same thing that this one I save. I don't think it's saved, let me see. It didn't say shoot. I made one about pretty much like what's the big deal about being technical, and so I know that was one that she wanted to talk about.
Speaker 3:Yes, so it the my thought is is being technical really that big of a deal? Is it really that important? And yes and no, you don't have to be technical to work in the field, but I feel like if you do have some technicality to you, then it does put you in a better position when it comes to pivoting. You can pivot a lot easier and do a lot of different things if you are more technical. That doesn't necessarily mean that you have to code. When I first started out in the field, I was like uh-uh, I don't want to do the technical stuff, I want to stay on the business side. And then I got pushed into a role that was very technical, so I didn't have a choice but to get it together into upskill. So I feel like it's good to have a balance. It's okay if that's not your your strongest skill set, but you should still be able to understand some concepts, to have conversations and things should still make sense to you from a technical perspective so that again, you can pivot a lot better. Because one thing about the field and working in the industry is a lot of the times you are going to have to pivot and if you have that not necessarily technical background, but if you have that technical understanding then it will make that pivot for you a lot more feasible, as opposed to you completely being against being technical and if you are required to pivot then that can feel like the end of the world for you. So I think it's important to have some components and you can decide what you want to focus in on and what technical bits and pieces that you want to add to your skill set. But I do truly believe, especially as time goes on and technology continues to advance, that the people who are not technical eventually will kind of get pushed to the back, because they want people who can do both. They want people who can have technical conversations and the strategic business conversations. So that is my take on it.
Speaker 1:No, are you eight? I think you know what. I'm not too concerned with it. Let me get back on screen. I don't really care. I think everybody got their space. Like listen, I don't need you to be super technical if you work in an HR, I just need you to make sure my policy is good and I offer it to look right. I don't need all that other stuff. I need you when you work help desk. I need you to understand how to verify people and, if they are verified correctly, how to verify them another way. That's what I need you to do. So I don't need like you're the smartest person, I don't like. Whatever your lane is, stay in it. We don't need the old lineman knowing how to throw a tight spiral. We just need you to know how to pass, block and run protect. We don't need the QB knowing how to block. So I'm just saying know your place, fam. That's all I'm saying. And if you go with that, if you stay in your lane, you won't get hit because there won't be no traffic in it. So that's what I'm saying and okay, this is a good one, so we should be able to watch this. Let me open this up real quick. So there's been contention on line People recording themselves getting fired and laid off and everything goes. So you know we're going to react to a ton dog talking to my. People should stop recording themselves getting fired. And for you guys that don't know who ton dog is ton dog is Anton Daniels, detroit's finest. And I have not watched the video. I don't know if there's any chance to watch the video, but I haven't watched it. I literally just saw one. I don't know if there's any chance to watch the video, but I haven't watched it. I literally just saw it in, I think, that IT group on Facebook and that's when I decided to like share with her. Let's say let's talk about it. So let's see what he's talking about and we'll kind of react to it. Let's go from there.
Speaker 8:One of the things that we like to ask ourselves a lot of times is why are tech companies laying off, despite the fact that it seems like we still have a humming economy? They are really, really profitable, everything is going on. Why are tech companies still laying off? So let's get into that. Make sure y'all tap into Patreon Link is in the description, as well as pinned to the top of the chat. Get into the bag chasers. Okay, I'm trying, get into the bag chasers. We got SOT Club popping off this weekend. It's gonna be lit. Make sure y'all tap into the Patreon Link is in the description, as well as pinned to the top of the chat. Let's get to it. Y'all said y'all can't wait to see the finished product. We'll get there. We'll get there. Hopefully they finish before the end of this segment. Let's go. Hi, my name Hi.
Speaker 5:Thanks for meeting with me and Rosie. We have an important meeting.
Speaker 1:I had to pause it so I can go ahead and not let it be copyright crap. But I think everybody's seen this video, but I wanna see what CNBC takes gonna be on it.
Speaker 8:Today we finished our evaluations of 2023 performance.
Speaker 7:This is where you have not met Cloudflare expectations for performance. We've decided it's part ways with you. Yeah, I'm gonna stop right there.
Speaker 5:This is a viral video posted by Brittany Peach, a former employee of Cloudflare, a San Francisco based tech company. The video posted on January 2024 and got so much attention that it may have kicked off a new subgenre of viral video. Watch this person get laid off in real time. The tech industry is again seeing widespread layoffs after a rough 2023.
Speaker 7:LinkedIn just laid off nearly 700 employees. Qualcomm is planning to cut more than 1200 jobs. Google, Amazon and Snap are among the companies continuing to downsize.
Speaker 5:And the start of 2024 seems no different, as layoff announcements, especially in the tech industry, continue to make headlines. Units affected they also include hardware engineering.
Speaker 1:So he said that too. But the funny thing is that the video of the chick she was like, oh, stop right there, I ain't never heard that before, Like she was talking about I ain't never heard this stuff. Yeah, I said I was doing good, so that's just also been included to what we were reading in the Amazon pip thing earlier on. Let's skip right here, maybe, so I'm just to see what she's gonna say.
Speaker 2:So far. Last night CEO Senator Pichai told his workforce to expect more cuts.
Speaker 7:An Amazon spokesperson did confirm those layoffs, the head of Prime Video and MGM saying in that memo that the company is making some of the cuts to prioritize investments for the longterm.
Speaker 5:Layoffs are also plaguing industries like healthcare, banking and media. However, the tech industry is the one that's been dominating the headlines.
Speaker 7:This layoff and everything that's happened in tech, I think is pretty eye opening. You know like you can have your dream job. You can have your oh it's my dream to work for Microsoft, or it's my dream to work for AWS. And you get there and you realize, huh, okay, it's just like any other job. It's a great place to be, there's a lot of great perks, but at the end of the day, they can get rid of you like that.
Speaker 2:The layoffs to the start of 2024 signal a dramatic shift in the tech industry. We're gonna continue to see layoffs happen as the future of work has changed, as the future of technology has changed and as investors, that appetite for risk and growth versus profitability has dramatically changed as well.
Speaker 5:So why are big tech companies and other industries laying off tens of thousands?
Speaker 1:So I said, everybody go through the same thing in their career you get laid off. Funny thing is, though, even going through a cloud for interview process I've been through that a couple of times They'll tell you oh, we never had to do layoffs, we even laid anybody off since the pandemic and right after that, start laying people off. So I thought that was hilarious, but I think, like before we get more into the video, I do think she shouldn't have posted only because I don't like. I said I don't know in the back end, how would that affect money that she might have been getting from a company for a sandwich or a bonus payout or something. However, if she was already maybe monetized or something on TikTok, she probably made more money from that than what she's gonna get from the same rent. So I see the play both ways.
Speaker 3:I don't think she should have did it, but I'll share my thoughts until the end.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna read this comment real quick. My God, keep it techie. Also responding to code in phase video on cybersecurity. Code in phase respond and said he is cool with tech G and keep it techie. And doesn't mean home doesn't want smoke. I don't mean I would. I wouldn't give nobody smoke from it because I don't really care that much. He was just expressing his opinion, since he did work and help this. Like you said earlier, disney, it wouldn't assign him, but he worked. Help this though. But that's the thing though. He can't talk about something he's never did. But there which there technically, there are elements of cyber and help this, but it's not the same thing, like, unless you just get like a widespread like outage on the help this and everybody's scrambling Like I've had some fun stuff like that happen on help this, but it's just not the same thing and it can be draining because it's mundane. It's pretty much the same thing. You're not learning much, so I can see why you want to pay for help this and you're not getting paid that much either. So I definitely can understand why he felt like that. But if he's never did anything in any of the domains of cyber, he's not qualified to make that. Just like I'm not going to say, oh you want to code and code in trash, we done with coding, big train. Like if I want to say that you know what I'm saying, I can't say that yeah me neither.
Speaker 3:That's not my flavor.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Peak Town for a man. Hey yo reaction. Stop Stop stealing Peak Town videos, man.
Speaker 5:We done with these, let's get back into the video the workers, at a time of the US economy, look strong on paper.
Speaker 8:I always advise people never to become interdependent on it just because you may get your dream job A lot of people dream of oh man, I want to work in Microsoft or Amazon or whatever and all of this stuff. And you get there and then you adjust your lifestyle to reflect it and reality. That doesn't mean that you need to become interdependent on it. Listen, a title that you get from a job that's there to make you feel good about yourself I don't care anything about that. I was on a coaching call with somebody and somebody was asking me a question and they was like Antoine, when you got to this work for your life, or how did it feel to become this thing or to become that thing or whatever, and to be able to add this and see your resume or add to see your LinkedIn? And, if you want the honest to God truth, it doesn't feel like anything to me, because I'm not impressed by titles, I am impressed by money. See, a job is just a means or another way for you to actually source income and we got to change our mindset. Behind that it's not about the company that you work at is whether or not you're leveraging the fact that you work at that company to get the maximum amount of benefits out of it. I don't care about senior VP or getting into the C-suite. I care about the equity positions that come along with it. I care about the money, I care about the resources. So the minute that y'all stop pedestalizing these companies and y'all start thinking differently about what success looks like, you'll have different results. I don't care about the title, I only care about the money.
Speaker 1:Listen, that's big facts, as my fellow Herri's brother just stated. That's big facts. That's me, and the reason why I would say that is because I've been in companies who feel like I'm supposed to care, that I'm working for them because of their name and their legacy and I'm like I don't care. I'm looking out for me and whatever, if whatever you're not paying me isn't helping me and my family out like I needed to. I'm going to make my own decisions and make my own moves to take care of us, first and foremost Because y'all care about your bottom line. I care about my bottom line, just like you were talking about the equity coming with it. I worked with some finance companies that have prestige, but yeah, I ain't no equity in the company, so why care that much about y'all?
Speaker 3:I think it's important not to fetishot. Say it please Fetishot, fetishot fetishot. However you say it. I think it's important not to do that for the company that you work for, Because I agree with everything that he said. You also have to remember you are still a number. At the end of the day. If they decide we're doing away with that role, there's nothing you can do about it. If you just made your brand being that you're Ms Google X, y and Z, whatever your role may be, then how are you going to pivot? What have you been doing? What time have you been putting in? What work have you been putting in that wasn't solely tied to that company? How can you? Why would somebody else want you if you just have a fetish with that company? You don't have a fetish about the role. You don't have a fetish about the skillset. You don't have a fetish about the knowledge. You have a fetish about working at that company.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to keep it a being. Listen, focus on the money and making sure you're making the right plays to stay marketable and not get sucked in or all that. Hey, listen, what she should have did was before uploading that she should. Matter of fact, she probably still can, if I'm UA. If they ever happen to you, just go to their competitor. They'll be glad to take you and pay you more money and keep on doing it until you run off the bank.
Speaker 3:I thought it was a poor idea for her to post it because she hadn't secured another job yet. Now if she waited and got another job, you just don't want to have your name out here in the streets with a negative connotation. I wouldn't want to hire her if I was a company because I would feel like, ok, can we trust you? Essentially, and obviously she was getting laid off, it was a different situation and scenario. But again, still, you just don't want to have that negative connotation behind your name. You don't want that to prevent you from getting to another bad. Essentially.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't care too much. I would have asked the question OK, hey, what made you post this? Like what were you going through, or did you get some money out of it? Like what? Because I can understand if that's the reason why she did it and if she did do it for that reason, I'm not going to judge her for it. I'm like look, we all do our things to get our home bread on the side of work, ain't making it as meat. So I don't really deal in that. Like I get it if you want to talk about maybe some insider stuff which could potentially be done if you've recorded the wrong thing, because that's another question, that's another topic we should write down.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Some companies will have you say, hey, when we're having conference calls, whatever, please unplug your Alexa and all this other stuff, so it's not listening to us. I just thought about that as I was talking. But yeah, I probably would have asked her something like that, just to get her temp and see where she's at and see what she said. If she gave me a good number answer, I'm cool with it. She's young, she's trying to make money, she was hurt and I think this is a big one too. I could be in my way and say I wouldn't hire her. But I think you also got to understand these new kids. They were born in a social media age Social media attention time. That's normal for them.
Speaker 3:I'm not mad, though, because they're exposing what's happening in the industry which may have not otherwise been exposed without the use of social media. So I can't appreciate her saying well, stop, what are you talking about? You never said, y'all, never told me I've been performing poorly from that perspective as well. I'm just very careful in that. Yeah, I wouldn't have done it personally, but I see why I never considered what you talked like from a financial perspective If she has a large following, whatever, being able to receive income from the video, so I didn't even consider that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nah, I agree, I agree, so I'll probably link that video. Let me put the link to that video if y'all want to check out the rest of the comments.
Speaker 3:I'm looking at some comments.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of comments. We'll probably share them with Ian. There we go, so if y'all want to, watch it.
Speaker 3:Someone said when I originally seen the video I was thinking the same rules don't apply to us. She can post it in minimal backlash due to what she looks like.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I agree, she got the complication for protection. But that's why I'm also like if I'm going to do something stupid, I'm going to make sure I get a benefit out of it. So that's why I'm thinking that's what happened. Now, hey, he's got to stand on business. Stand on business with what you say. It's OK if you feel like that Ain't nobody going to go check you in person. Like what you say to the boss, stop security, it ain't that easy. Exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't think he should have private it them, because it's more room for conversation to occur.
Speaker 1:Right. I think you lose some credibility with your audience. Private videos so, unless it's like I've had a private son, but it's not because of that is because of people's livelihoods was at stake. That's about the only something had to do that. Let me get to this, because we covered this two weeks ago. Let's talk about it now. As change health care as drags on, fear grows that the patient data could spill online. Now, if you guys are not aware, change health care was hacked a couple of weeks ago and I believe they paid. Let's see, I believe they paid the ransom, but they go on 22.
Speaker 3:22, 22 milli, a milli, a milli, yeah.
Speaker 1:So hospitals have been unable to check insurance benefits of inpatient stays, handle the prior authorizations needed for patient procedures and surgeries, or process billing that pays for medical services. Pharmacies have struggled. There we go. What just happened? There we go. I just clicked on something by accident. Since change, health care shutdown is networked selling on February 21. In an effort to contain additional intruders, some smaller health care providers and pharmacies are wanting to go crashing cash reserves as they struggle to pay their bills and stuff without the steady flow and reimbursement. So let's circle this all the way back to what you were talking about earlier Know how to do something about the security assessments, yep. Well, if you get a security assessment, you will find out it will be much cheaper to spend that $100,000. From where you have to spend to now, pharmacies are not having the money that they need to do what they need to do.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying I know someone who works for one of the companies that was affected and every day they were told it'll be up tomorrow, it'll be up tomorrow, it'll be up tomorrow. And it was not up tomorrow, it was days and days and days and days.
Speaker 1:I can believe it. Change Health Care's parent company, united Health Group, said in filing with government regulators on Friday that the health tech company was making substantial progress and restoring its affected systems. As the near term impact of the ongoing outages of patients and providers becomes clear, questions remains about the security of millions of people's highly sensitive medical information and about change health care, and that's why it's so critical to protect health care. Because imagine somebody hack in and either you got a serious illness and they change it to say you don't have it anymore, so now in the system you're not going to get your medicine or something. Or some people start saying you got some you don't have. Like we just thinking about they started with this. Go and say they start tempering with the data and actually doing real harm with it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and maybe it's something. Maybe you want some medication that's life or death and now you can't get it, and true.
Speaker 4:Now you go ahead.
Speaker 3:I was going to say the same friend that I have also said that when the systems came back online, everything was incorrect.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that sucks for them, especially in backups From Russia. A prolific ransomware game takes credit for the cyber attack on change health care claim without yet publishing evidence that have stolen enormous banks containing millions of patients private medical data from the health tech giant system. In a new twist, the ransomware game now appears to have fake this own demise and dropped off the map at the receiving ransom payment worth millions in crypto. I would too. You ain't going to hear that. I do it. You ain't got to worry about me. You give me some money. You see me no more. If patient data has been stolen, the ramifications for the affected patients will likely be irreversible and life lasting. Change health care is one of the world's largest facilitators of health and medical data and patient records, handling billions of health care transactions annually. Since 2022, the health tech giant has been owned by United Health Group, the largest health insurance people in the world. Man, there's a lot. I'm not going to read something. I ain't trying to bore y'all, but let me see if it's something on the end I could touch on real quick. And then what is going on? This is a guitar mess era. Here we go. Let's talk about the ransomware game real quick, because I'm going to help you all out. Like I said, if you're interlevel trying to go on cyber, they'll ask you about stuff like this. So, especially if you are interviewing for a security role in healthcare, you need to talk about this and talk about maybe what you would have did to prevent it. Now, the hacker scene to have disappeared added the unpredictability of the situation. Unitedhealth initially attributed the cyber attack to unspecified government-backed hackers, but later walked back that claim and subsequently pointed the blame at Russia-based ransomware and extortion cybercrime group called ALPHV, also known as Blackcat. Ransomware and extortion groups are financially motivated and typically employ double extortion tactics First scrambling the victim's data, there you go. That's why, when they got it back, it's not right First scrambling the victim's data with the filing 50 malware, then swiping the copy for themselves and throwing the publishing the data online if the ransom demand is not paid. On March 3rd, an affiliate of Blackcat officially a contractor that earns a commission for a cyber attack they launched using ransomware against malware, complaining of the posting of cybercrime form. Let's see, blackcat is one of the affiliates of their earnings. The affiliate claimed in a post that Blackcat stole 22 million ransom from that changed healthcare, allegedly paid to decrypt their files to prevent data leaking, as first reported by a veteran security watcher databreachernet. So yeah, so that's pretty much it. That is the old bait and switch we getting the money, y'all did the double working. We gonna leave y'all out to dry with no Vaseline. That's pretty much what that boiled down to.
Speaker 3:Ransomware can be, scary.
Speaker 1:But this is where cyber security is not boring.
Speaker 3:Exactly, they're not bored, they're overworked, tired and probably hiring, or they will be soon.
Speaker 1:Now I know the funny thing is the one thing we have not talked about that we should have talked about in the beginning is the meta outage. Yes, so at first people just tell us like an outage, now you got people thinking it's like a cyber attack, so let's read up on it and then we'll talk about, like I guess, how people felt when, like this stuff was there. I think he was busy that day, I was.
Speaker 3:I didn't even know until you text me about it. I didn't know, I was busy.
Speaker 1:I mean speculation that a cyber attack cost metas mega outage expert reveals what technical issues may have led to the loss of service. So a hacking group has claimed credit for one of the biggest social media outages in years. On Tuesday, when millions of accounts went down worldwide on Facebook, instagram, facebook Messenger threads and WhatsApp. The hack of this group, anonymous, claim it was a cyber attack, but meta has been tight lipped on what caused the outage, simply causing the technical issue. I don't know Anytime. You see, technical issue is some type of incident. Metas loss of service came soon after the AT&T outage that some speculated was caused by malicious hackers. As well as the health care ransomware attack was interested with the US largest health insurer allegedly paying $22 million. Now they paid it. The cyber security expert told Daily Mailcom that a cyber attack cannot be ruled out entirely, but said it was more likely either human error from someone that meta or a technical issue with the company's server. I'll make a lot of believe right now that it might have been more of human error, because I think meta would have experienced something like this in before. I know they probably like have crazy traffic volumes and attack volume, but I'm gonna say right now, probably just human error or some insider threat stuff. So I mean I'm gonna say human error for now. That's because that's crazy, like to take down everything. I forgot how long it was down for. Let's see what the thing says. Meta does not have social media accounts that update the user status of the company's different sites, so many users were less speculated when they got vague error messages. As it's often the case in the wake of a cyber attack, multiple hacker groups rushed to say they're responsible. Anonymous fans posted in American Flag emoji on X along with following messages of cyber attack is happening right now on all American social platforms. The group include the screenshot from the site down directed which track users reported out. As for websites, but just because they said they did it doesn't mean they did it In the event. Multiple different groups claim responsibility, but experts doubted where they were truly to blame. There's currently nothing but a social post to suggest that this is a cyber attack. Jake Moore, global sub security advisor for East, said with limited data and tight lips for meta, it will be difficult to speculate, although it cannot be ruled on entirely, he added. And then metas representation continues to remain vague. I don't know, so normally how you kind of got to go back to legal and you're working on this stuff out. Everybody's doing that deep dive investigations so we're going to find out soon. Was it human error or was it actually incident? And if it was an incident, that's going to have a lot of people scared because they have so many people in those apps, so many people.
Speaker 3:And it wasn't just meta, it was Instagram, whatsapp and something.
Speaker 1:I mean it was where you know, metas, the umbrella, so everything that home. Let's see. This is like a phone, but this has been down to domain name service. This is like a phone for the internet which converts a web domain to the actual IP address. When the DNS has an overload or some other network issue, it goes down. As internet grows, these issues become more frequent, especially, if not future proof there are some clues as to what happened. According to software company Cisco's thousand eyes network monitoring block, thousand eyes can confirm that metas web servers remain reachable, with network paths clear and web service responding to users. However, users attempting to lock in our receiving error measures suggesting the back end service, such as authentication, as a cause of the issue. So this is all I know this thing. With this line I mean y'all going to read this on your own time. Liz, I did not know it was this long. Let me go back to me and destiny, because I got the screenshot of like what I was trying to do at one point in time during the day, because I think I sent, I texted you, I text the screenshot to you and it was you remember what day that was.
Speaker 3:I'll text you. Let me go back and see.
Speaker 1:I can just go to our messages and find it to be honest, I'm scrolling scrolling, scrolling.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I found it.
Speaker 1:I don't know what day this was, but you see that.
Speaker 3:It was on Tuesday, yeah.
Speaker 1:So on Tuesday, y'all see it won't refresh. So that's a crazy thing. That's why how did you feel. I mean, with the car I was busy Like you do the days, like I will go through and just look through the social media and stuff, but I'm not actively on there to afford to affect me that much. I don't really care, but it's a way. That's why we do tell people if you need to, if you got any type of platform or social media, you need to get an email list so you can still reach out to your subscribers versus line on them, because I think at one point in time YouTube is down this week too, like everything was down, so like I don't know what's been to happen. They might be like doing some political stuff behind the scenes to take our eyes off what's really going on. That conspiracy theory stuff. I see, oh, even being prescribed medication that's meant for your baby can kill you. Yeah, yeah, man, I don't know. I think you guys are like really living like a 2020 Q1 of 2024 has been like a doozy. Every year is like always something, and I think that's the good thing about living is always something. But, guys, I think we are nearing the end. I think we are pretty much closer to our remark and we are going to work to keep on going live with this, eventually, maybe weekly, and eventually maybe even where we're in the studio doing it. But, like I tell everybody, if you want us to go to the studio, you need to support the Patreon and support the videos. Share amounts, everybody. So we don't got to come out of pocket for none of this stuff and if we do, we're going to put it behind a paywall so only certain people couldn't interact with it. That's what I'm saying. But, destiny, you got anything you want to leave before we get out of here.
Speaker 3:Nothing, nothing crazy or fancy. Happy Sunday to everybody and I hope you have a wonderful week this next week. That's coming up. That's all I got, and thanks for tuning in. Of course, thanks for tuning in, we'll be back.
Speaker 1:And I don't got nothing to tell y'all. Look, you had me at resilience and listen, I got some stuff dropped. I got some heat dropping this week. So it's going to the Patreon first for sure. So it's going to Patreon first. Get on the Patreon and show a little to the last post. It's really a lot of good gems in there. I would have to cut it up so y'all can see really we, we got some stuff in. The episode is really deep. But I appreciate y'all for the rocking with us this Sunday morning and until next time stay textual and we out peace.
