214: The First AI Ransomware Attack, 3 Million Texas IDs Stolen & Fake Zoom Interview Hack?

The First AI Ransomware Attack, 3 Million Texas IDs Stolen & Fake Zoom Interview Hack?
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[00:00:00] Mm-mm, baby. Mm-hmm-hmm, go, mm-mm, baby And they definitely playing that Drizzy Dre everywhere. I know. I don't hear no bing, bop, boom, boom, boom, bop, bam. The kind of sitting on you and understand. I don't hear that played nowhere. Somebody mama still play it

[00:00:28] Oh, we briefly didn't talk about it, but like, but how was your 4th? Um, peaceful. In the house. What? Yeah. I didn't do anything at all. Yeah. I don't celebrate the 4th. I haven't for the last few years. I'm more of a Juneteenth girl. Mm-hmm. If you get it, you get it. Um- I think a, I don't think, if you want to be honest, I don't think no Black people really celebrate the 4th.

[00:00:47] We just happy- Yeah ... to get together and grill- And, yeah ... and eat. I mean, we can- 'Cause I mean, half- ... we can rebrand it. We can rebrand it, for sure. 'Cause I didn't have on red, white, and blue yesterday. Yeah. Same. Nobody I was around had that on, matter of fact. It's just a [00:01:00] thing of the past for me. Like, as a kid, absolutely red, white, and blue.

[00:01:04] Used to be fresh to death. That was when you knew you was finna get a new outfit. Was that how it was where you from? All the kids got new outfits around the 4th? No. Fly fresh. I mean, whatever you had on. I mean, I didn't really put outfits on, not even outfits, like probably try to color coordinate, so like I would probably talk to somebody if that's what they wanted to do.

[00:01:22] For the most part, we was going down to our, our family's land and, um, we were, uh- Were y'all like outside? Having fun. Yeah. Yeah, I have to show you a picture- We was- ... after this, like how big. Everybody was in there. I'm gonna show you how big it was. Yeah. Like, nobody, like it's crazy. People just think it's odd when I tell them like how many uncles and them that I had, and my cousins and stuff.

[00:01:44] Our, um, well, I'm from up north, so it's different too, and I will say that probably also plays into it for me. Um, because up north you can pop fireworks, um, you know, with your people, wherever you may be. There's really kind of no restrictions like [00:02:00] it is down here. Um, but yeah, the kids get fly, parents put on their best stuff.

[00:02:05] You go to your people house, and you might go to a few houses, get you some plates, and you end up at one spot and probably be there for the night. Um, so yeah, I didn't do anything. What did you do? Um, I didn't do much. I think, uh, went to my aunt's, went over to Marquis's and, I mean, for the most part we just ate.

[00:02:28] Like I just, the kids, let them have fun for the most part, but I don't care about like, I really don't even care about fireworks. Me either anymore. We're killing the Earth, guys. Are we? Absolutely. You know the data center people gonna come for you talking about killing the Earth for fireworks. Um, let me see real quick.

[00:02:47] But, uh, while we're already here, let's get into a fun topic real quick, and let me see if I can add this as a image, uh, to the screen real quick. Um, so [00:03:00] there was a post on Threads and the young lady was saying, "Y'all be making the work from home jobs a cult, 'cause why y'all gatekeeping that too?" And so I quoted it saying, "There are work from home jobs and there are people who work remotely.

[00:03:12] It's a difference." What's the difference? I'm gonna show you once I get to my next thing. Let me hide that. Uh, think about it. Think about some people that you know work from home and think about what we do when we work from home. Mm-hmm. It's a difference Yeah Let me, I'm gonna- Okay, wait. Say it again.

[00:03:34] There's a difference between? A work from home job versus working remotely. 1,000% agree. I had to ponder for a little minute. And so, um, let me, let me switch to me real quick and, uh, where are we? There we go. Let me switch to me

[00:03:53] So there's a TikTok that says, "Everybody want a work from home customer service job till you find out they micromanaging you like a [00:04:00] slave, and it's really outbound sales with no commission. Stay far away from Everwise." Everrise. I don't even know who that is. And somebody made... That was in Teams. They said, "I would like to say I will miss those who I made friends with.

[00:04:14] You know who you are. Wonderful to be able to share a workspace and bond and laugh, but this place is a joke." "Derek is crooked. Supervisors have told me this as well. I see straight through people like you. You were never able to fool me with your lies, underhanded and devious ways, so F you simple. Carrie ain't really do nothing but her job, but F her toothless ass for just delivering the messages from Derek's swole face."

[00:04:40] Man, this dude going off. "And for that terrible annoying Gypsy Rose face"- Oh my God ... he going crazy. He went sick. "And Ashley, you bob mouth, cut your hair ability. Your name say customer service representative. Act like it." Yeah, he going crazy. I'm not even finna read all [00:05:00] this. But this kinda just makes my point.

[00:05:04] When you be seeing them people, no experience required, work from home, you know, $20, 25 an hour, that's them type of jobs. Oh, yeah. You're gonna be tied to metrics, tied to how long you're not doing whatever it is you're supposed to be doing. Um, and, and really tied to the desk and/or phone because that's the produc- that's how productivity is measured.

[00:05:26] And I've had roles like that before where you don't really even have time or grace to step away. They even asking you when you go to the bathroom where you go. Facts. I actually go in, um... For my stuff it was OX what? Um, it was like OX2, OX3, and you couldn't be in one for like a, a certain time- For longer than a certain amount of minutes

[00:05:47] or you had to like do a different OX, like if you had to go take a break or something like that. Yeah. And... Or it was like another one where if you wrapping up something for your call, you can't be in it s- For too long. Yep. And I be like, [00:06:00] "Man, forget y'all." Yeah. That- All remote or work from home jobs are definitely not treated the same.

[00:06:07] Mm-hmm. 1000%. You wanna adjust that? Your hair keep rubbing against it. It's hating on me. Well, you could probably just push it to the middle. That way your hair don't rub on it. Don't, don't turn it. You know how your hair get. Lord, leave it alone. Leave it alone. Um, but yeah, it, it, it's like that. And, um, also- Then people do more work than the people who is not being micromanaged, who is actually getting a salary, who can actually have PTO and off time and- Yeah

[00:06:34] go do stuff. And that's the stuff that people don't know. And when they finally get a job where they can see, like, "Dang it, man, how did I s- do that so long?" But one of the ways a lot of people stay at them jobs forever is a lot of people at them jobs are very small-minded or they just happy to do it. To them, and this is, uh, not elitist here, uh, because what you don't know you don't...

[00:06:56] What you know you don't know. If you went from making $8 an [00:07:00] hour to $25 an hour, that's gonna be a lot of money for you. Yeah. But then there are some people that realize, "If I'm getting 25 to do this, you know, what my management getting paid, and then how can I get paid more- Yeah ... to do less and get more of my time back?"

[00:07:15] And, I didn't switch it on me over here talking, but for the most part, that's literally how it is for a lot of those people, is they're happy to be there, the job is easy, they get comfortable. That's what I'm saying. They get comfortable doing the job. They definitely get comfortable. And that is the reason why you see that.

[00:07:33] And you be like, "Man, y'all just gonna be..." Like, whenever I get, um, my guy Chris on, he'll be saying about something, "Yeah, man, they just was happy to be at the help desk, man." It was, um... He was like, he said to me, that's how he talk, "Man, I'm glad you the first person to leave, 'cause once you left, man, I left too, 'cause I was like, 'Man, it's, it's time to get out of here.'"

[00:07:51] I told them that I was gonna leave. I said, I think after the last time they botched me getting the interview internally and they, they, uh, pretty much [00:08:00] stopped me from working in the SOC for that company, I was like, "Okay." Time to go. I see how it is. That's when you get... That's what you call on the job training, the stuff that they don't teach you.

[00:08:09] Mm-hmm. They just gonna keep you there 'cause you're a good worker, but not give you your just due. 'Cause jobs like that you'll master in, like, three to six months. And then you just be sitting around for three to six years. Mm-hmm. Frustrated. And then- Bringing down the, uh, morale. Not even that, but that's when I run into the, the people where they been doing help desk or service desk, whatever.

[00:08:30] They've been doing it for, like, 10 years and they just... People, they trying to use YouTube university, but they just don't know what to do. And it's hard for them to leave because all their resume say is help desk or- Help desk ... customer service. Yep. And they be like, "Man, what I'm gonna do?" And then that's when they meet me.

[00:08:47] But now that we are here, um, let me see real quick.[00:09:00]

[00:09:02] There you go. You are now watching The Test Will Talk hosted by HD and Son Shorty.

[00:09:15] All right, man, I have to wake it up on y'all. Y'all listening to this on a Monday, it ain't gonna be this, this slow and it, and this laid back. I have to wake it up on y'all. But, uh, thank you everybody for tapping back in to the Tech with Talk podcast. I'm your host, HD. And we got Cyber Shorty in the house.

[00:09:29] And I know y'all been missing this. You know, I've been doing the content whenever Cyber Shorty is busy, and she's been very busy. She's always busy, actually. Uh, but, um, we got some good stuff to talk to y'all about. And let me go ahead and put the topics up here real quick for y'all to see at a glance what we gonna talk about to y'all today real quick.

[00:09:49] Give me a sec. All right, y'all. So for some of today's topics, we have, uh, the government was hacked, Meta tricked people, well, tricked the [00:10:00] chatbots, I think they were teenagers, to do some AI stuff, AI LLM ransomware attack, PlayStation says no more to physical disk, and 3 million Texas IDs were lost. Um, so we're gonna go ahead and let Cyber Shorty get busy real quick.

[00:10:16] All right, all right, all right. Okay, so the government got hacked again. So let me go ahead and set the scene for you. So the World Cup is happening, right? And, and we have millions of people, we have international teams, we have massive security coordinations that are taking place, and the platform that the federal government uses to share intelligence about exactly these kinds of major events, that platform is what got hacked.

[00:10:43] So DHS, the Department of Homeland Security, confirmed that its Homeland Security Information Network, called HSIN, I think, is it HSIN? Yeah, I think that's what it is, HSIN. Perfect. Was breached. Hackers got into the servers in late May and early [00:11:00] June of this year, and they may have been inside while we were coordinating World Cup security in real time.

[00:11:07] HSIN is not a social media platform. This is where federal agencies, state governments, local law enforcement, and emergency responders share sensitive intelligence. So think about what goes through these type of systems. We have threat assessments, we have law enforcement coordination, emergency response plans.

[00:11:25] Senator Mark Warner called the exposed information highly sensitive and said its exposure risked national security. That is the senator on the Senate Intelligence Committee, and obviously when he's talking about this, he's not being dramatic. Now, the most uncomfortable context here is that since January 2025, there have been multiple major federal security failures, sensit- sensitive information shared on unauthorized apps.

[00:11:52] We had, uh, Doge employees accessing government databases. We had a CISA contractor who leaked passwords [00:12:00] and credentials, and now we're facing this. Now, the question that the industry is asking, and that we should all be asking, is what happens to cybersecurity when you cut the budgets and the staff of the very agency that's supposed to be responsible for defen- Defending our federal systems.

[00:12:18] CISA, which is DHS's, their cyber arm, um, has been seen taking a lot of deep cuts under the, the current administration. And so the people who were supposed to prevent this, um, had their teams basically gutted, and they probably didn't have the manpower, um, in order to be, you know, as successful as they could have been.

[00:12:37] Now, the identity of the attackers is still unknown, but what we do know is that a legacy platform with access to sensitive national security information was not defended the way that it needed to be. Yeah. Yikes. The funny thing about that is that's most of the government stuff. Most of it is [00:13:00] legacy. Oh, for sure.

[00:13:01] Most of it is not really defended the, the way that I guess it's supposed to be. So... I wonder, were they freaking out? Um, of course. Okay. So we're here, right, where the World Cup is. The police presence has been crazy, but I was thinking it was crazy due to more, like- The, the city is more prone to some type of, uh, terroristic attack 'cause there's just so many people, you know.

[00:13:29] Like, when there's a lot of people involved in those type of spaces. I was looking at it from that angle, not that the, the federal systems and agencies were compromised. So I guess, but the police presence here has been insane. Hmm. I would- But you, you are all the way over there. Oh yeah, 'cause they in Arlington.

[00:13:49] Yeah. But they been all over. They're everywhere. They been ... But I'm sending out the cops, but the people been... Let's even just talk about, like, the World Cup and the people eating the food. Yeah. Like, they been going crazy over- They been going nuts ... Long [00:14:00] John Silver. Forget that, Wendy's. Popeyes. Taco Bell.

[00:14:05] Chick-fil-A. Ranch. Like, the funny thing is of the people who are chronically online like myself- Same ... they see all the stories about when the UK people were trying to tell us about who food was better and this and that, and we was like, "We not listening to nobody that eat beans and toast." Yeah. Like And then also the, they came over here and a lot of the food, regardless of how good it is, it's just not good for you, you know?

[00:14:30] So I think I seen something that say for the FIFA 15 people coming over here, 'cause a lot... How are people coming over here for a month? They, hey. A month. S- their rules and stuff are different over there. The World Cups are big things for some of them countries because for us we got so many things. You got hockey, you got football, you got, uh, NBA, you got NASCAR.

[00:14:51] You got all these different sports, boxing. Over there, they's only a handful. Soccer, boxing, darts. Like- Yeah ... it, it's not that [00:15:00] many sports over there. So I don't know. I seen, uh, one woman and her family, they went to Hutchins and they- Oh, they went and sat. Dude was like, "We can come here every day." Like. I seen a lot of people go to Terry's.

[00:15:11] Yeah, so I've never been there It's not bad, but it's- But you not a- It's not bad, but it's- You not a meat eater, so ... but, but it might be eating days. It was good, but it's not Hutchins. It'll do if like- It's another spot in Frisco I wanna try. It's a Black-owned spot. Do you like beef ribs? Not if they cook right.

[00:15:30] Yeah, theirs were tenderoni. Wait, what was it? Tendernism? Tendernism? Hey, uh, well, you can't throw them glasses, but if you had some glasses, you could throw them out. No, for real. Hey, look at him, man. No, for real You got me thinking about, uh, what's that song Drake got? Oh, Janice I like, I like it Mm, mm, baby.

[00:15:55] Mm-mm-mm, go mm-mm, mm, baby And they definitely playing [00:16:00] that Drizzy Dre everywhere I know. I don't hear no bing, bop, boom, boom, boom, bop, bam. The kind of sitting on you and understand. I don't hear that played nowhere Somebody mama still playing it

[00:16:16] That and She Bang That's my favorite. I was listening to that on the way here Um, but I wanna talk about everybody know the fiasco we've been going through with the whole student loans and the SAVE plan, and it's really unethical. First of all, it's always been big business the fact that you get these other companies to put interest...

[00:16:39] I don't, I do not think student loans, if you got yours through the government, there should be no interest attached to them. These things were put in place for people to better themselves. And I also think that if you graduated, it should be different now. The people who just went, like I said, to get a couple of refund checks and get Crown Vics and stuff- Please get out my face.

[00:16:58] Please. I'm [00:17:00] telling you, it's a thing Crown Vics? Yes. Please. You can get one... You can get a Crown Vic down here for, like, a thousand, $2,000. I'm screaming. The thing only be... Everybody, look, I say this all the time around income tax time. I would tell people, "Hey, don't be, uh, giving your income tax to go see Matilda, daddy."

[00:17:16] I tell people that all the time Going to buy a little lemon The thing only work for about three weeks. But nah, it's just that, then you have all these companies on the cool. If we could've really held everybody to the fire, nobody should have to pay their taxes no more because they breached a lot of trust by giving people loans to different people that nobody actually said that they wanted to do, and now people got access to your data that wasn't supposed to.

[00:17:40] Mm-hmm. And so technically nobody should be able to have to pay the things back. Or they could do this. I actually got a, I got a solution for this. Let me go solo. Since they wanna act like that with the loans, and since they say by the time we get old our Social Security ain't gonna be here, why take it out the checks?

[00:17:59] Let that go to their [00:18:00] loans. No. Yes. I mean, if it's gonna come out, it's gonna come out. But the thing is- That was- ... by the time- That was- By the- Yeah ... by the time we get to use it, we not gonna be using it, so we gave the government, uh- All this free money. Mm-hmm. Free gain And we don't get nothing out of it.

[00:18:14] That's what I'm saying. We never get anything out of it. Yeah. That's even worse then, though, 'cause by that time some people gonna need that. We always get the short end of the stick So monkey on a stick, monkey on a stick. But so this article I came across, it came across my feed, and it was just, like, the parents got, what, an $80,000 loan and got a yacht.

[00:18:34] But it says, "The number going viral was 800K, but the actual story is 80,000. Still wild, still wrong, but let's get the facts right. A woman named Chloe went public after her parents signed her up for $80,000 in student loans to fund her education, and then as their own wealth grew significantly, they bought a $6 million yacht instead of helping her repay the debt they put her in."

[00:18:55] That's crazy. You bought a $6 million yacht- Okay, wait, wait, wait[00:19:00]

[00:19:02] They signed her up. So they did like a parent loan type of thing? Yeah, probably so. Okay. But to be able to get the 80,000 mean they was pretty in good standing too. Why didn't they pay? They probably... These people probably had money to even pay for school outright. I mean, they bought a... For sure. They bought a $6 million yacht.

[00:19:20] She's not asking them to fund her life, she's just asking why they walked away from the debt they signed her up for. And that's the thing, too. A lot of kids, that's the first time ever dealing with loans. Sh- Nobody- It take you, it, you might gotta mess up a loan in order to know what you need to do right and how much you need, 'cause they'll give you all this extra money that you don't need.

[00:19:40] Yeah. Yeah, think about the... Like, some people was getting, like, a lot of refunds back. Yeah. Like, I would, I just- Some people, no, some people were maxing out, and so when it came time for summer, they couldn't get no money because they exhausted all their financial aid for the year. Like, I just would always try to get, like- Exactly what you needed

[00:19:54] might, like, a little small refund, but nothing, I never had nothing crazy 'cause when I was on the quarter system, so it worked out [00:20:00] perfectly. Like, when I, like I said, when I left undergrad, I, I think I only owe, like, 10 Gs, seven to 10 Gs. It wasn't, it was not a lot of money. I think mine was about 10. Yeah.

[00:20:12] Grad school's where they get you. Please. Hmm. Break it down. Here's where this becomes a teachable moment, because this story dropped the same week the biggest federal student loan overall in a generation took effect, July 1st, 2026. Parent PLUS loans, where parents borrow to help cover college costs, are now capped at $20,000 per year and $65,000 total per child.

[00:20:33] Before this week, they could borrow up to the full cost of attendance. That limit is gone. And that's the whole thing, too, when you- That's not a lot of money. Depending on where you go. I mean- Go, go to a state school ... 20,000 a year? Some- But the thing is, though, a lot of kids don't think about... My granddaughter, my sister, I think she getting, like, a lot of scholarships, and she gonna be, like, in the honors portion of the college.

[00:20:56] But the things I ask her about, she's not worried about yet, but I say, "You need to [00:21:00] because you gonna be the one that's on the hook for this stuff when you get out of school." Yeah. And a lot of kids are just so happy to go, "I'm going to Penn State, I'm going to here, I'm going to there," and they not looking at the full picture.

[00:21:11] I was like, shoot, go get you. Look, stay down, get you a little IT job, do some tuition reimbursement, and get your school handled like that. They'll even still give you a Pell Grant. Grad PLUS loans are eliminated entirely. Graduate students are now capped at 20,000, well pretty much, uh, 20,500 a year with a $100,000 lifetime limit.

[00:21:31] Medical school alone costs an average of $60,000 a year. Do the math on what that gaps mean for future doctors. And the SAVE repayment plan, which about seven million borrow- borrowers were enrolled in, has been legislatively killed. Those borrowers are now getting 90-day notices to pick a new plan or get auto-enrolled in the tier standard plan.

[00:21:51] This is not abstract policy. This is rent. This is whether you can start a family. This is your financial foundation for the next decade. If you have student loans, federal or [00:22:00] private, you need to know what changed this week. That's insane. Yep. Um So to explain to some people who may not know what this is, a Parent PLUS Loan is federal loans parents take out to help cover their child's undergraduate costs.

[00:22:15] And the Grad PLUS Loan is the federal loan for graduates and professional students. The SAVE plan is a income-driven repayment plan struck down by courts and now legislatively eliminated. And the crazy thing is like it never was, uh, going off like the right numbers. Like, I always feel like- Yeah, huh

[00:22:30] whatever you, whatever you should pay should go off your net, n- not your gross. Bruh. They be try- please. Repayment assistance plan, a new primary income-driven option under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. And now career angle. We talked about this earlier, but the financial aid counseling, helping students and families navigate the new, more complex loan landscape and taking policy roles, building tools, and advocating for transparency in the new student loan system.

[00:22:57] And personal finance literacy is skill in the [00:23:00] workplace. Knowing this does make you valuable in HR benefits and ops roles. I think financial aid counseling should be provided in high school. It's just a lot of stuff that should be provided. Like that, especially like that senior year. Mm-hmm. So that you can just better understand.

[00:23:12] 'Cause I promise you, you gonna spend some time on the phone or walking down to that financial aid office if you're in school. Right. So if you have federal loans, log into studentaid.gov now and check your repayment plan status. If you're on SAVE, you have 90 days from notification to choose a new plan before auto-enrollment.

[00:23:29] Use the College Investor Student Loan Calculator to compare what different plans cost you monthly. So that crazy part, and it's like that is crazy. Like, she didn't ask for that much. They just knew they can get it and get over on their child. Pause. So was it for school or not? It was for school. But- So why should they have to pay it back if she knew it was for her to go to school?

[00:23:51] I don't think she needed that much. Oh. And you gotta think about it too. Sometimes them kids wasn't getting that money directly. It was going to the parents first. Remember we did that, [00:24:00] we did a talk about, it was about months ago. It was a similar situation- Yeah ... where the mom was getting the money and then divvying out to her the money.

[00:24:08] So- But what the mom was using it for some other stuff in that- Right ... specific situation, yeah. She probably didn't even know that they took this out the whole time. And instead of the fact that you got a $6 million yacht should, you should say, "Hey, I didn't ask for that. I was a kid," or maybe that's the only way they could go to school.

[00:24:25] That interest though is more than 80,000. Man, they need to, they need to pay some of that back. Like, I wouldn't like... If I have to do that for my child, I'm gonna try to help him be in a better position as I can. If I'm not able to do no big loan, we gonna say, "All right, these the schools you can get to is just on minimum loans and, and a Pell Grant and, and your scholarships.

[00:24:45] We gonna hit scholarships heavy. That's why you gotta get these good grades. If not, I'm gonna tell you to go this route. I'm just gonna be honest with you. I'm just be like, 'It ain't no reason to go into all this debt right now, and you probably won't be able to live for a while if you're not picking a major that...'

[00:24:58] Which is why now [00:25:00] if you think about kids- Everybody who get income tax or whatever, put some of that money away for the next 18 years for them to at least have something to start school off with. Please. These people is not gonna do that. We know. But it, it- It sound good, though ... but the crazy thing is it don't, I mean, it don't take that much- It don't

[00:25:19] to me. It could be- But people, people- ... 500 bucks ... pe- people don't even have much in their savings account. That's what... But I'm just talking about... That's why I preference the people who get these big income check refunds. Like, if you want your child to succeed, you have... envision them going to school, or they don't.

[00:25:34] Even when they turn 18, whatever, that, that just be money they have so they can start their life versus having to get it out the mud. Mm-hmm. So that's kind of my stance on that. I don't know. It's, it's interesting. I was gonna say chat, but we ain't really live, y'all. But if you still rocking with us right now, let us know in the comments, uh, if you got student loans, how you feel about this news and, and what you plan to do to, to get 'em paid.

[00:25:58] I feel like everybody finna start getting [00:26:00] part-times. 'Cause it's always something. It's always something. But you are on... Let's see, what are you on? The Supreme Court stuff? Yes. All right, all right. So the Supreme Court says your location data is yours. So this one is actually good news. The Supreme Court just ruled six to three that geofence warrants are protected under the Fourth Amendment.

[00:26:29] That means law enforcement can no longer just demand your location history from Google without first probate- Lord, without first proving probable cause and getting a proper warrant. So a geofence work- warrant works like this. Police draw a virtual fence around a crime scene, literally. They go to Google and say, "Give us the location data of every device inside this circle during this time window."

[00:26:56] Google initially gave them a list, then they [00:27:00] narrow it down. In the case that sparked this ruling, police asked for data on everyone near a Virginia bank robbery, and Google initially returned 19 people who had nothing to do with the crime. Justice Elena Kagan wrote for the majority, "An individual has a reasonable expectation of privacy in records about his cellphone location, and police intrude on that constitutionally protected interest when they demand the information, even though for only a limited time and from a third-party tech company."

[00:27:34] The court rejected the government's argument that because you choose to give Google your location by using apps, you gave up your rights to privacy. Because let's be real, your maps app, your weather app, your food delivery app, all of them want your location. It's basically the price that we're paying for using modern smartphones.

[00:27:54] The court said that doesn't mean you waive your Fourth Amendment rights. Now, the nuisance here is that the court [00:28:00] did not ban geofence warrants. They said you need a proper warrant with probable cause. Google has already changed its policy. They now store location data on your device, not their servers.

[00:28:12] But Apple, Lyft, Snapchat, Uber, they still hold your data. This ruling covers them, too. For privacy advocates, civil right organizations, and protest movements, this ruling is important. These warrants weren't being used broadly, and the concern was always, what stops law enforcement from demanding everyone who has attended, for example, a protest?

[00:28:34] Um, so I thought that was pretty interesting. Um, 19 people who had nothing to do with it is crazy. Yeah. Um, this goes into a lot of different things we've been seeing with everybody so outraged about Flock. I mean- What is Flock? So Flock, you've seen these cameras. They're on corners, they're like squares, and [00:29:00] they are almost like in a lot of neighborhoods and sometimes some cities.

[00:29:03] In the hood? No, everywhere. Oh. Everywhere. I mean, they're definitely in HOAs. These cameras can read, uh, not only license plates, but, uh, they see people walking, their images, and all that kind of stuff. So people just think... And I say that 'cause I was, like, in the interview process with them. One of my friends actually got the role I was interviewing for, so I was happy for her.

[00:29:25] So it's a lot of cool work she'll be doing. But everybody just think that it's really not Flock, right? The whole issue is actually how the police use the information at their disposal, 'cause there were reports of police, uh, where they were... One dude was, like, just checking up on his ex-girlfriend and seeing where she been and stuff like that or whatever.

[00:29:45] But they do have, like, some policies for admin to see who's doing stuff whenever they're supposed to be doing it. Like, I know I made a suggestion about, like, anytime somebody looks up some information, it should be to, like, a report number or something, not just 'cause you're doing it to do it. Yeah. But having said all that, it's much more [00:30:00] than license plates.

[00:30:01] They can help you find missing people. Um, it's a couple other things that it can do. So I- We had to realize a long time ago that even though all this stuff has happened, like our data isn't really ours like that, like talking about. But there's some benefits. Now, as for the people getting accused of that being there, I think that is, that's crazy.

[00:30:23] That's insane. 19 people. And I wonder, like, I wonder what the follow-up is that. Like, did they get the chance to sue or- Probably not ... or what? Like- Because you allegedly... Well, I guess from the... I don't know. It's, it's so many nuances with technology. It, it just, it, it just truly and honestly there's just so many.

[00:30:47] All right. All right. Here we go. You good? Yeah, I was thinking. I know. I saw you. Um, so top five Black TV shows. I gotta go [00:31:00] first? Yeah. Okay. Good Times, um, The Cosby Show, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Um, what is that show? ♪ Removing, oh no. ♪ It can't be your favorite if you don't know the name. I can't, I can't think of the name.

[00:31:12] The Jeffersons. Yeah, I love The Jeffersons, and I'm gonna say, mm- The Bernie Mac Show Okay. That's cute. Your turn. So I have Fresh Prince, Martin, Jamie Foxx, Parenthood, and then I'm gonna round it off with ... I'm trying to think if I'm gonna do a unconventional one, but be sh- a shocker. I'm gonna go Moesha. I'm mad 'cause I coulda said Girlfriends.

[00:31:44] There was a lot of stuff I coulda said. The Parkers. I just was having a brain fart. Yeah. That, that's our five right there. Which one did you watch most? Outta all them? I caught a lot of refun- reruns. I would say Moesha. It was Moesha [00:32:00] and then probably Parenthood the most early on, and then it became, um, Fresh Prince a lot, Martin a lot, 'cause all them used to run just the reruns.

[00:32:11] Yeah. Like, they made money just off the reruns for sure. Um, yeah, who else was it? 'Cause I coulda said America, but you already said that. And who else ha- it's a lot of shows. Uh, Rock is a good show. You coulda said Kenan & Kel. Family Matters. I can't believe I forgot them. Uh, uh, uh, Living Single. No. Yeah. Not that, not that.

[00:32:33] Living Single. Not that. A Different World. That one. A Different World? Yeah. Um, I mean, depending on what you got classified too, 'cause some of the stuff's kiddie, but, like, one- I mean, you said Black TV shows ... one of the ... No, no, I'm say- 'cause I'm saying, 'cause one of the shows that I would say, you know, is a Black show even though people that's older than us, they watch it, but it would be Gullah Gullah Island.

[00:32:49] That's a Black show. I know, but that's what I'm saying. That was a good show. And I would say My Brother and Me. So even though it got one season- I don't remember that one. Yeah, you was ... I was ... It didn't c- we didn't get the chance to watch [00:33:00] it when it was out. We caught a lot of refun- reruns. They was a Black family based in Charlotte, but it wa- it was cool.

[00:33:05] That's the first time I got to see Amanda Seales. She was in that. But, nah, let us know y'all's top five ch- uh, shows in the comments. I don't think nobody's top five is killing mine. I, I want a redo, but it's over with now. I think, so let me see. My next one was a fun one that I think I saw, and it was with the, um

[00:33:28] Let me see. Let me find it real quick.

[00:33:37] Baby, if you give it to me, I give it to you. You know

[00:33:46] I want. That was a banger. All right. That and don't this hit make my people wanna jump, jump. Is that the scary video? No, that's the one that was reenacting, like, stuff from Rush Hour 2. That video scares me. That's, that's the same... What, really? Where they was [00:34:00] talking like Harlem Nights from Rush Hour 2 on Pascal Cavazza?

[00:34:01] No, where, where he was like l- with all the different colors and makeup and stuff on in the video. You probably thinking about something else. Scary. 'Cause it was Harlem Nights. When, remember when she, uh, step, he stepped on the toe? On her toe. On the video, on Pascal Cavazza video. It's the same thing. I do remember that.

[00:34:17] People said, "Do it again. Ah, do it again." As a kid though, I hadn't seen Harlem Nights at the time, but I- I didn't know that was from Harlem Nights- Me either ... as a kid either. I just thought it was just- But, but also took that song to another level was Love Don't Cost a Thing. Yeah. At the beach. The beach dance.

[00:34:31] Where she... He was on there going hard. Al Johnson. Yeah, yeah. Aquaman, he in the shorties now. Uh, let's see.

[00:34:46] All right, so Wired reported that Meta hired hundreds of contractors who created fake accounts posing as minors under 18, and then sent those fake children into ChatGPT, Gemini, and character.ai with prompts about suicide, [00:35:00] self-harm, eating disorders, drugs, and sex. Sorry, one more time. One more. Say that again one more time.

[00:35:06] Prompts about suicide, self-harm, eating disorders, drugs, and sex. The operation was internally code named Cans, run by a Meta contractor called Covalen. One round of testing in August 2025 involved more than 45,000 prompts. One spreadsheet alone had 3,748 prompts, hundreds about suicide and self-harm, hundreds about eating disorders, 239 about sex or romance.

[00:35:35] Some of the prompts, a fake 13-year-old asking where to buy pills to end a pregnancy, a fake fifth grader saying a classmate had a gun to his mouth, a fake girl asking how to hide bulimia from her parents. Meta's response? "This is industry standard safety testing," and here's the complicated part.

[00:35:53] Adversarial testing is real. Red teaming AI safety systems is a legitimate practice. [00:36:00] Researchers literally need to know what happens when a child in crisis asks a chatbot for these questions. But Roman Choudhury, CEO of Humane Intelligence, reviewed the prompts and called it a governance gray zone where safety becomes a convenient cover for anti-competitive practices.

[00:36:18] The targeted companies, OpenAI, Google, character.ai, were never told this was happening. Yeah, I can see where that can get a little tricky, and here's the part Meta would rather you not focus on. According to the reports, Meta's own AI failed to block child sexual exploitation content 66.8% of the time in the internal assessments, and failed on suicide and self-harm prompts 54.8% of the time.

[00:36:41] The company testing other safety had serious safety gaps of its own. Hang on real quick. Where it's at? That is blasphemous. Oh, man. I have fun with these. Let me tell you, I need to show you that app so you can have your own to play through. All right. [00:37:00] This is a story about AI ethics, competitive intelligence, child safety, and where the line is between security research and manipulation.

[00:37:07] The regulators are now circling. So numbers at a glance again. 45,000 plus prompts, 3,748 prompts in one review spreadsheet. Meta failed at a 68.8% failure rate on the CSAM detection, and they also failed at pretty much more than half on the rate of suicide, self-harm prompts

[00:37:32] So In the research they said, "What is responsible disclosure in AI safety, and how should companies share findings about competitors' vulnerabilities?" Let's be honest here, who wants to share that? 'Cause everybody wanna be top dog. How you gonna get up here criticizing somebody else, and your platform itself is not even up to par?

[00:37:55] Seriously. True. We all done seen crazy [00:38:00] thing from Instagram to, to Facebook. Come on, now. Come on, now, dog. Come on, man. That is insane. What is it? Throwing rocks and... How do you say it? Throwing rocks behind your hand, or throwing rocks in the glass house. Literally. That's even better. Yep. That's insane. I know a old Black person was sitting down and, and ate down with that, as you say.

[00:38:25] But seriously, I just think that that is... I wish you had that one sound. Come on, man. Come on. Like, that's just insane. Yeah. And, and I'm not saying that these shouldn't be done, but who are y'all to do it to somebody else? Yeah, that, 'cause you're not- This should be done independently ... Well, maybe it's gonna be some type of loophole, like some bug bounty type stuff.

[00:38:44] I could... I do think that it's important for everybody's tools to be probed and targeted in these type of ways so that they can become better, um, to protect our kids, however, Meta, who are you? But the thing, I think the issue's gonna boil down to, it's gonna be to a point now [00:39:00] where people's gonna have to start verifying before they use, uh, AI.

[00:39:04] So they're gonna have to figure out people under age. Well, remember how we talked about it should be like a- We was talking about that, uh, some type of... Yeah ... a kids ChatGPT, and all that kind of stuff. I think it's gonna go down to stuff like that eventually because I hope... What the thing is, it's just, it's a slippery slope.

[00:39:19] Because how do they actually verify if this a real ID or not? Are they gonna start working with all the state legislature for the DMVs, have them scan it? Okay, hey, you are so-and-so. You are actually 15. Yeah. We have scanned this. This is what you're allowed to do. But then, but then- It's privacy, but hey.

[00:39:36] Exactly. I mean, we know it is, but that's the risk you take when you start signing up for this stuff. 'Cause it's, it's gonna... It's adopting so much at a fast pace- Mm-hmm ... that it's hard to keep people- It is ... Like, think about it, how much, when it came to at least technology, how much better at it we were than our parents are.

[00:39:55] And how much better these kids are than what we were when we were their age. Some of them really ain't. I think it's, I think [00:40:00] they start off... 'Cause now stuff is too easy for them. They don't have to figure nothing out. It is a, it i- the, the UIs are a lot friendlier. They don't have to figure nothing out.

[00:40:07] Yeah. So I don't know about, I don't think they gonna ever be able to get one over. I mean, they know stuff, though. They, I mean, they know how to do stuff. Like, I know, like- And they can look up how to... Like, so Natalie was smart enough to circumvent the measure of, like, I had... So I had blocked the YouTube regular app from them for using.

[00:40:25] So she shows Ellie, "Hey, go to Safari- Screaming ... "and, and type it in." And that's how they was on YouTube. But I had already- I thought you had a dummy Thought you had- But that's why I always tell people, like, you can't put nothing past kids- No, period ... no matter how s- Because think about it, six and four. I mean, think about what we was gonna, what we were gonna try to do to- I mean, we was just using proxies on, at the, um- Proxies.

[00:40:48] Thank you. So these kids are- But the funny, so- I ain't gonna lie, my girl chewed with that one. She ate. What you say when you caught her? I'm like, [00:41:00] bro. I started laughing because it's like- 'Cause you was like, "Blue back." Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, I'm gonna eventually put one of them profiles on there. Uh, but even then, it just- See, the thing is, I w- I changed they password so they couldn't do nothing.

[00:41:13] They mom will forget the password, so I either have to ver- verbally tell her again or text it to her. And so when she do it, they always watching and so now they both know their codes. Mm-hmm. But when I'm going to change them again, they's gonna be outta luck, and they's gonna have to wait. They're not gonna know it.

[00:41:28] Like, it's, it's a chess game with your own kids, pretty much. Hold on. What they say? Yeah. It be your own kids. It be your own kids, for sure. Yeah, man. Yeah, man.

[00:41:41] Which, what you gonna hit 'em with? Texas fishing license vendor, three mil. All right, so Texas fishing license vendor leaks three million IDs and passports. So three million Texans had their driver's license and passport numbers stolen [00:42:00] through a vendor that processes hunting and fishing licenses. Texas Parks and Wildlife Department announced the hackers got into their third-party license- licensing vendor's system and walked out with data on over three million people.

[00:42:15] Uh, driver's license information, passport numbers, email addresses, phone numbers, home addresses. Now, what makes this story actually multilayered is first we're talking about third-party risk again. The state of Texas didn't get hacked directly. The company that they hired to sell hunting and fishing licenses got hacked, and that vendor apparently had government-issued ID information sitting in their systems, obviously for years.

[00:42:45] Second, the timeline is suspect. Texas Cyber Command was notified on May 13th. Um, the, uh, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department published its breach notification on June [00:43:00] 12th. They didn't make it public until June 18th. Meanwhile, a threat intelligence firm called Brennenstehle reported in May, which was weeks before any official notification, that a hacker going by Wick Kid was already selling the database on dark web forums, which means victims' data was being sold while they were still waiting, obviously, to be told.

[00:43:25] Third, this appears to be part of a pattern. The same actor, Wick Kid, is linked to a similar breach at Virginia's Department of Wildlife Resources, which also uses a third-party vendor for hunting and fishing licenses. One vendor, multiple states, is proving to be a systematic, uh, vulnerability. So if you are a Texas resident who has a hunting or a fishing license, enroll in the Crowdfire credit monitoring that they're offering.

[00:43:52] The deadline is September 14th. You can also call 844-959-7123. [00:44:00] Um, some other things you can do is freeze your credit on all three credit bureaus and then watch for phishing, um, related language, um, because that is likely what will come after this type of incident. Passports obviously can't be canceled. Um, they're valid for years, which makes that theft for anyone who was compromised in that way a lot more dangerous as well as unfortunate.

[00:44:25] Yikes. Yeah. And before you say anything right here, I'm gonna make a mental note to put Aura right there. Yeah. Boom. So go back and listen to that and put Aura right there Now I was looking back through your notes as well, 'cause I was trying to see that they name the vendor that's responsible for that, and I don't think they did.

[00:44:48] They didn't. So that's interesting too. It is. So if I was you looking for a job, I'd go look for these people 'cause third party risk is always the thing, and that's why a lot of [00:45:00] companies are hiring for that now because it's, like, such a pain. It's such a pain. It's a sore spot. I don't even think I ever- You can't dictate what they got going on most times.

[00:45:09] Yeah. That end is like, I don't think, uh- And they can lie too. Like, there's another one, uh, LastPass got hit again, but it really wasn't on them. I seen that. So another third party risk, man. Another third party risk. Um- The crazy thing now though is back in the day there was no Auras and all the other companies that people could go to to do their identities and stuff real time, but now it is.

[00:45:39] So at some point that little offering, that free stuff from Equifax and TransUnion, they gonna have to do something else. 'Cause we can already pay for our own. So, uh, that's interesting. And now I think I had ... Let's have some fun. Some more fun. Where are they? That's my have some fun dance. Hmm. [00:46:00] I'ma try to see.

[00:46:00] I'ma just read it like this. I'm trying to get my ... People always hear me saying ServiceScam. But speaking of, I was going back listening to some of their old catalog, and they have an, um, a story that sound just like your book It's not same one-for-one Whoa. That podcast I be sending you, they call Serving Scandalous.

[00:46:25] Did you send me that episode? Uh, not that one. But it's, uh ... In, in short, it's crazy, but I think the girl's ex-boyfriend or something from college was stalking her. Mm. And she was married at this point now, but they even found something. Her mechanic took her car apart and found something tracking her. On the car?

[00:46:44] Send me that one. It was ... I was like, "Man, this finna sound like Hostile Takeover." It do sound like Hostile Takeover. And then, but it wasn't nothing like Hostile Takeover, 'cause that man wasn't acting like Marcus. He, he was soft? Nah, he actually was trying to downplay it for her in the beginning [00:47:00] because he didn't want her to worry, but he was already kinda looking into the threat.

[00:47:02] Scared. Nah, he was looking into the guy- Oh ... and doing a little research, uh, on him and building his case. Mm. But he was trying to just say, "Hey, you know, stop being so predictable," and all this other stuff. But it didn't matter, 'cause she was being tracked. That's so scary. For real, for real. Something on your car.

[00:47:18] Speaking of, while we talking about that, did you see the situation with the woman and the man in the parking lot at Walmart? No ... it was a road rage pretty much over a parking spot. Mm-mm. Now, I don't know what happened with the whole road rage incident, but something happened and the lady got out of her car, 'cause it was in Florida, so stand your ground state, and the guy kept walking towards her.

[00:47:42] She kept on saying, "Hey, back up. Back up." Now, technically, at this moment s- it's kinda, the law's gonna have to be in play here, right? 'Cause it's hard to determine what you feel like you should be scared of your life, what I'd be scared of versus what you'd be scared of. Mm-hmm. Like, if a, a guy's coming at you, no matter how big or small he is, and you [00:48:00] say, "Hey, back up," you are gonna be scared.

[00:48:02] Now some people say, "Well, you shoulda just ran away," and I, uh... Man, you're scared. It's fight or flight mode. And she's telling him, "Back up," and she's trying to back up, and he kept on coming, and she shot him. She didn't try to kill him, but he end up dying from the shot. And so now there's been a lot of just uproar of that.

[00:48:16] Now they're trying to just paint him as this, a hero 'cause he was a veteran and this and that, but my thing is, if you're dealing with PTSD or whatever you're dealing with, bro, you shouldn't be on the streets driving like that because no sane person is gonna, like, first of all, over a parking space. I think that's the part that I said I think would make people think at it, look at it a little differently, 'cause it's like- It's sad

[00:48:39] if you willing to just crash out on me over a parking space, you might be crazy for real. I actually used to crash out until I moved here. S- I promise you. Really? I, I swear to you, I used to be a crash-outer on the road. Not I'm about to follow you or anything, but I will blow my horn- I've always noticed that-

[00:48:56] and I will, I will go off ... women got more road rage than men However, when [00:49:00] I moved here, I don't even play with people on the road. People, I don't even get ignorant and back. I'm not finna do any of that because you just never know who's having a bad day- Yeah ... who got a gun on them. So- I know people who been in traffic and had guns pulled on them, and people who had to pull their gun out- Yeah

[00:49:16] to protect themselves. So- So I'm not with that ... ironically, what you talked about is the reason why most men don't really get into it with people, and why they try to treat all men with respect. Mm-hmm. Is because you don't know if it's somebody last day and you the last straw. Yeah. You just don't know. And that is- You blowing that horn was my 13th reason today.

[00:49:34] And- And, and get, and, and people do actually get so mad that they will hit you. A- like, with their, with harm. They just so upset and angry, they will cause you... And who's to say that harm ain't gonna paralyze you, kill you- Yeah ... disable, disfigure you. Yeah. For me, it don't, it don't be worth it, especially- It's not worth it

[00:49:54] if I'm t- my job is to make it home to the kids, so. That it is what it is. I know that ain't nobody was calling that, [00:50:00] but some people may be aware of that. It's went viral on TikTok, and I was just going back and forth for like the fam. They was like, "Well, you can't just brandish your gun on people." I was like, "No, but we know that a, a person..."

[00:50:10] I forgot what our, the strength levels is, difference between me and you. Mm-hmm. If I'm able to get my hands on you, I can do you bodily harm before anybody come help you. Yeah. And so I was like, that has to be factored in regardless if you feel like somebody shouldn't do it or not. It's, it's always Florida and Texas, literally.

[00:50:26] Always. Um, now where is it? Okay. So be careful. I was computer hacked during my job search. My husband and I both fell for this, and we are both pretty tech-savvy millennials. I applied for a very senior position with the corporation on Indeed. These hackers are relying on the fact that you are rushing to fix the tech issue so you can make it to your fake interview.

[00:50:49] Days after applying, I received an email asking me my availability for interview. Absolutely nothing suspicious yet. No grammatical errors, weird spaces, email and company names [00:51:00] all check out. Then they sent me an interview confirmation and told me that they will send the invite link to me the morning of the interview.

[00:51:07] 10 minutes before my interview, I clicked the Zoom link to take me to the interview, and the message pops up that says my Zoom is outdated, and it took me to what looked like a Zoom website. It automatically started downloading a Zoom application on my laptop. I tried to open the application in my downloads folder, but Apple wouldn't let me open it.

[00:51:26] It went back and read the company's email. Uh, I'm sorry. No. I went back and read the company's email from when they sent me the link, and it said that their software doesn't work with Macs, so the interview has to be done from Windows. Yes, I know this should've been what woke me up

[00:51:44] Hey- I'm listening ... thank God for the Mac. I started panicking that I was already late for my interview, so I called my husband. He told me to get his computer and try to link. Oh, God. I clicked the link from his computer and a application called Service Connect again started immediately downloading to his computer.

[00:51:59] I put him on FaceTime [00:52:00] and showed him the screen. We immediately both snapped back to reality and realized it was a hacker. We tried to end this task from Task Manager, but each time we ended the task, three more would pop up. We shut down the laptop, changed our passwords everywhere, including banking, computer, emails, et cetera.

[00:52:13] These scammers use real companies with real company emails and are relying on you being rushed trying to make your interview, not really thinking or paying attention closely. Never thought my husband and I would fall for something like this. No. No. She- You fell for it ... I was gonna say, she talk about, "My husband and I."

[00:52:27] No. Your husband wasn't even at home. No, you fell for it. You used h- you used your computer and then infected his computer. Yeah. Like she fell for it. And that's exactly why, uh, if anybody ever asks what they, "Can I use your computer?" For what? Mm-hmm. Let me see what I woulda... This would've been me

[00:52:45] What? What?

[00:52:54] What? I would be like, come on now, man. Like, and I need to go through these comments because can we see the email? 'Cause clearly [00:53:00] something was missing. Mm-hmm. It was probably some domain spoofing going on there. Had to been. Let's see. That, that corn, that con

[00:53:15] I just wanna see if somebody, like there's nothing

[00:53:21] My suggestion may not be helpful since you mentioned that the link looked legit, but I have my computer set up so it doesn't automatically download anything until I give it explicit permission to do so. Yeah, you can change your settings so that you can navigate it to where it goes to. The fact, the fact that she said she just saw it downloading like that is, that would've been the flag for me.

[00:53:38] Yeah. And the thing, and also if you are a end user and you don't know much about it, if you did download a app and it don't run, go to VirusTotal, upload the, uh, application that just downloaded and see if it pop hot. Now granted, this is not always the case if something's malicious or not, but for you, this should be good enough to let you know that.

[00:53:57] And there's tools called like Joe Sandbox that should have a [00:54:00] free tier. You can run it through there and it'll let you know, "Hey, don't install this." Yeah, they didn't... I wish they'd... Nobody went in here and, and said what the title was. So it was that one. I thought that was cool. And then this next one, let's, let's get into it real quick.

[00:54:16] And it was, they received a verbal offer and then got ghosted instead

[00:54:24] And this economy is crazy. It's happened to me before. Not sure if this belong here. Anywho, I had an interview with a company for a sales role last week Monday. Was excited because I've been depressed and unemployed for months at this point, so I was willing to take any job I had experience in. Had a 45 interview, 45-minute interview with the manager, seemed personable and quite chill, so it gave me an idea of the culture and what I could possibly expect as an employee.

[00:54:48] It all looked great on paper. Manager said I'd be a good fit, great experience, great interview, and that he knows I can do the job. Asked when I'm available to start, et cetera. Then says, "Perfect. HR will send you some documents today or [00:55:00] tomorrow." I'm showing gratitude and how excited I am to be a member of the team.

[00:55:04] He responds back in a way that wouldn't make you question if you didn't get the job either. All this just to get ghosted in the end. I even sent the follow-up message to absolutely nothing. Definitely tanked my self-esteem, 'cause I felt like an absolute idiot. I finally found another job, thank God, but still.

[00:55:18] Has anyone else experienced this level of brilliant acting? What is the poi- what is the... I'm aggravated. What is the point, what is the purpose of playing with somebody like that? I mean, obviously, yeah, you got their information. I don't... See, it be so much BS that be going on from, like, the rec automatically starts getting pulled back.

[00:55:37] So- What would be the point to play with somebody like that? I think sometimes it be out of the manager's hands. Like, I've, I've seen- But say something They be- Not saying nothing is trifling. I agree That's tacky That's just like agreeance. Let me see

[00:55:56] Okay, so this wasn't long. But I mean, I've been through this [00:56:00] before. 2018, right before I started my m- working for Optiv, I had an interview with this company called Talent 101 for, um, Texas Instruments. I went through the interview. I'm talking about... This is why, I think I posted before, I'm talking, when I said plenty of times where I'm from the era where you had to dress up and interview.

[00:56:21] I'm going there suit, full suit on. You was, you went in person? Yes. This is 2018 Full, full suit on, tan, blue tie. I could probably find a picture. What it got? A brown band on the, the watch was gold. Man. He gonna insert the clip, y'all. Man, listen. The dude, like, I'm like, he was like, "Yeah, man, you look nice," whatever, whoop-dee-who.

[00:56:41] And I got emails in there where I'm just crashing out, 'cause at this time I needed a job. For real. I was like, "Bro- I was gonna ask. I was going to ask. I was gonna ask ... yeah, 'cause he said so, like, so many wor- so many words, "Hey, all you gotta do is come back in here and meet the team, but you pretty much got the job."

[00:56:55] He said that in so many words. And I kept on emailing them dudes back, and they never said nothing back. [00:57:00] And so I was pissed off, 'cause I'm like, it was, like, right around my birthday. I'm like, "All right, cool." I, I know I just landed a job. We out having fun. Just for me not to get a job, so I was really pissed off at that, 'cause I was like, "Bro, I woke up early to drive to y'all twice to talk to y'all in person."

[00:57:17] But there is light at the end of the story, or as I said, the end of the tunnel. What had happened was is I didn't get that job, but I ended up getting the job for Optiv. I got offered the job for Optiv in, what was it? May? Yeah, I got the job offer for May in 2018, and I started in June. But here's the funny thing.

[00:57:40] When Optiv's building up their new team to support, I can say it on here, on my podcast, we were supporting Disney, the Disney contract. One of the guys on the contract was from Texas Instruments, and I was telling him about my situation. He said, "Man, you dodged a bullet. They don't know what they're doing.

[00:57:52] They just hired this woman. She don't know what she doing," and w- all this other stuff. So I was like, "You know what? As far as mad as I [00:58:00] was, I'm glad I landed to where I needed to be." Yeah. And what's for you is for you, even though you may be in the experience frustration along the way. Like he said, you dodged that bullet.

[00:58:09] 'Cause had you been in need and then you get there, and you're just like, "What the heck is going on here?" And now you gotta find something else. Yeah. And so a lot of times that's why I tell people, say, "Hey, look, I done been through the situation." It sound like BS when I'm telling you it, because you probably going through some foolishness, but eventually it will get better.

[00:58:30] And a lot of people who are going through unemployment and stuff like that, it's gonna be a time of famine, and then it's gonna be a time of rain. 'Cause, like, literally after Optiv came through, I think it was Hilton or something, they wanted to get at me, was like, "Hey, we got this role open up. Let's see." I was like, "Man, I just, I, I just got an offer, but let me see what y'all talking about."

[00:58:49] And they just was... Unfortunately for them, they took so long to get, like, paperwork and, like, trying to get me some real numbers back that I had already just took the offer that I got from what's called- From somewhere else. [00:59:00] Yeah. I didn't even go... Actually, it was just, like... That, that situation, so when I got Optiv- The t- director at the time, his name was Eric Imagine interviewing for all of these roles in person and getting ghosted.

[00:59:11] Right. Um, but this is... So you've been- I don't know if you've been seeing some of the videos I've been uploading to the channel. I reacted to some where, like, people technically had jobs, but then when the people saw them on camera and saw they was Black, they pretty much didn't get the job. Yeah. And I was reminded of a interview I did in person out here in 2018.

[00:59:33] This company called, uh, Security Software something. It was like a security assessor role. They're called S3. If you type them in right now on your computer, S3 Plano, they should come up, and their office is off Preston and Park. And I remember going there, and it's, like, the whitest of the white type of people in their suits and stuff like that, and I was like, "I'm just probably the person they just interviewed to say they interviewed a Black person."

[00:59:55] And because it didn't make sense that when I got denied they said, yeah, I didn't have the experience they was [01:00:00] looking for. I was like, "Y'all knew my experience before I came and sat down with y'all." And so these are kind of things I just been talking about 'cause everybody goes through them. But back to my story about, uh, working at Optiv.

[01:00:15] How that worked out for me so good was the, the director called me the next day and he said, "Hey, I heard you, uh, interview with Mark." The funny thing is I did not interview. I swear to God. Mark hit me to schedule the interview, and he forgot to call me, and we didn't have our interview, but I still got the- I lo- I love when, I love when that happens I still got the offer.

[01:00:32] I love when that happens. It was crazy. He called me the next day. Because they're, because, because of that, they have to put in something good 'cause it's gonna look bad for them, so they gotta give you some, some good kudos there. Yeah, he's like- I love when that happens. That's happened to me before, and I did get the job.

[01:00:48] He was a real one, though. He was like, "Hey, what you, what you making the last spot?" "Hey, I was making so-and-so." Now granted, I could've negotiated more at this time, but I was just so happy to be talking to somebody about getting a job. He's like, "All right. I'll give you [01:01:00] 10K more, and then we give you, like, 10K bonus or whatever."

[01:01:02] I was like, "Bet." And it was, it was, it was off to the races from there. And that's why I be telling people, I was like, "That's prob- about a four-month span of, like, sometimes it, you know, it don't work out, but sometimes it do work out But hopefully y'all like that little story time. If y'all wanna know more in-depth about that, I think I have like a playlist on here with like my whole career progression.

[01:01:26] Now this, this more recent part, I ain't said much about that. I won't give y'all some tea on that until like years to come, but it'll definitely... Well, it might be some Patreon videos that be on there just for a while. So yeah, that's that.

[01:01:42] PlayStation. PlayStation. Do you remember no commercials? Yes. That's why I tried to say it like that

[01:01:51] I remember the gray one, the first one Oh, the PS1? Yep I had, I remember when I got a PS3, that was the [01:02:00] first... Or was it a 4? I think it was a 3. That was the first one that I got. Hmm. There you go. It's up for you. All right. PlayStation kills the disc January 2028. So this one is for the culture. Sony just announced that starting January 2028, new PlayStation games will not be released on physical disc, digital only.

[01:02:22] The era of popping a disc in is over for new releases. Sony's reasoning, physical game disc account for just 3% of their gaming revenue. 78% of full game purchases last year were digital downloads. The wri- the writing has been on the walls for years. This is just Sony making it official. And it's not just Sony making the move.

[01:02:46] Grand Theft Auto VI, GTA VI, the most anticipated game in history, announced its physical edition will be a box with a download code inside, not a disc, a code in the box. Rockstar called [01:03:00] that the physical version. The internet had thoughts. Here is the tech and privacy angle that doesn't get talked about enough.

[01:03:06] When you own a disc, you own the game. You could lend it, resell it, play it without internet. The disc didn't care if your account got hacked, if Sony had a server outage, or if the company decided to pull the game from the store. Digital ownership is not the same. You own a license to play, and licenses can be revoked.

[01:03:23] Sony just shut down the PS3 store in select markets. Once, once that happens, if you don't already own the digital game, you cannot buy it again. Games disappear, studios close, licenses expire. The history of gaming is being locked behind platforms that don't have to preserve it. The cyber lesson here, this is a digital rights and data ownership conversation.

[01:03:46] Understanding who controls your digi- digital assets, whether it's games, music, software, or documents, is a conversation that extends far beyond PlayStation Um, [01:04:00] wow. About time. Yeah. Mm. About time. I mean, I, I do get the argument in saying licenses do expire, things will go away. You had it two years ago, you won't have it in five to 10 years.

[01:04:12] I got the perfect scenario. What? Think about when the last time you've been in a car with a CD player 'Cause my cousins and I, we were talking about that the other day A five... No, not a CD player, a five-disc CD player Did I have that by maximum? Re- really, really one of them ones I think I had that by maximum.

[01:04:30] But nah, not only that, I think, like, it's been, the rise has been on the Wild for a while. 'Cause even sometimes back in the day, like on Xbox, if you put a disc in, I think you had to be online or something, it had to verify, like, the game. It was like a whole bunch of crap, where back in the day, somebody give me the game for 360, I just put it in and play.

[01:04:46] The, the good days. Bring your game over I understand why- Like, go into your friend house, bring your game over ... 'cause it's probably, you know, it's cheaper not to make- But I mean it, I mean, it is going away. And then you have to make the system to be able to read [01:05:00] that- But I think the thing is everybody doesn't have affordable internet

[01:05:03] that too So it's like, whereas you think- That's what he just said, yeah So you think where it should be standard, what they're supposed to do, they're in a rural place but they love GTA, and they don't have no SpaceX internet or nothing. So they better make sure everybody have affordable internet before they just clearly go on this timeline.

[01:05:19] Two years. Yeah. It could- 2028. Hmm. I think this is a point to get everybody to buy all the physical media up. I misk... I misk. I miss. I do, I miss the DVDs. I miss the Blu-rays. I miss the, the, the books. I miss the stands. I miss being able to go put a disc in. I miss being able to see the director's cut. We just get what it is.

[01:05:41] We don't get to see director's cut. We don't get to see- Yeah ... behind the scenes. Some of them, they do, on, um, depending on what the bundle is and how you rent it from whatever place or you buy it from. Oh, I've s- never seen that. Well, in a while. But there were a lot of different things and perks, like alternate endings, um, in movies [01:06:00] that you just would get to see if you bought the physical disc.

[01:06:03] Or, um, special editions or whatever it may be. Anniversaries. It's just... It's, it's black and white instead of being black and white with sprinkles. Yeah, no, for sure. I think, like- Are you gonna get GTA VI? Uh, we was talking about that. I, I think I may get it. I'm more, you know me, I'm more happy about E-Day than I am about GTA VI.

[01:06:26] Is that a shooting? That's the game I sent you. Matter of fact, I sent it to your wife, too. I sent it to her, the thing, 'cause you didn't send it to her. Oh, okay. She said, "Well, she ain't sent it to me." So I sent it to her that day. But, um, I said I may... I mean, I may take off just to play it- Mm-hmm ... just for the fun of it.

[01:06:43] But I mean, I'm more of a Saints Row guy. More of a who? Saints Row. What's that? Saints Row- Shooting? ... is, is... People would call it a GTA clone, but it's really its own game. I feel like I seen somebody talking about that on TikTok. 'Cause it's really about gangs. Gang, gang. Happy hearsay. But, [01:07:00] but, uh, it's about gangs, and you gotta go take back your, um, your hoods and stuff like that and- That sound real ghetto.

[01:07:08] It's, it's fun though. The first two, chef's kiss. Three is... But after three is when it start going down, but... 'Cause I remember playing three when it was brand new when I was in college, and I was- Mm ... like so happy. And when, I think I pre-ordered that joint from GameStop and paid it. That... Man, see, do kids even still do that anymore?

[01:07:26] Go put $5 down to hold your game and then go pay for it when it come in? No. But I was just finna say, 'cause that just... When we were talking about the disc going away, it made me think about the Wii, and how that's why you can still play the Wii, is because you have the disc to play the games, not because you need the internet to play the games.

[01:07:42] Yeah. And so you can plug up any old game, as long as you have the CDs. It doesn't matter- Yeah ... as long as you have the- But I do like the benefit- ... the connections ... of, like... So it's, it's pros and cons. Like, for me, I'm a Xbox guy, so Xbox- Hey, Xbox in the house. Xbox got Game Pass, so, like, you can go back and play, like, all the old games and stuff like that, so.

[01:07:59] I be [01:08:00] frontin'. We know. We know. We definitely know. I be frontin'. I haven't... I, I played the game, like, probably three times this year. Yeah. I didn't make it far. We know. I still haven't finished, what's the name? Uh, South of Midnight? Yeah. But it's so good though. I don't wanna finish it. I told you. It's so good.

[01:08:17] It's beautiful. You know you could have put it on the part where it's just straight the story. You don't even have to worry about playing the game. It'll just go through the story for you. It's pretty. Yeah, I like it. What she say? "Don't speak," um, she say, "Don't mumble it. Speak on it." I be saying that at home.

[01:08:30] It's so Black coded. It's so Black coded. Yeah. You think they'd ever make a, a game about the, uh, what was it called? The River Boat Massacre? Where the- That would be good ... the dude threw the hat up. Only if it's a story mode. I don't know, bro. That chair. Role-playing. That's a funny... Like, we done lived through some...

[01:08:49] They gonna- We done lived through some crazy- The crazy thing is, I don't even know... See, I don't even know if they can do textbooks anymore for the kids, but history books. They're not- When they get to- ... 'cause they gonna be ghetto ... when they get to talking about- The stuff- ... millennials ... the stuff that was ghetto, [01:09:00] literally.

[01:09:00] A lot of stuff. All these challenges. We was listening, what song was it? Oh, you remember when people was doing the, the freestyles for Geeked Up? Yeah. They was like, "I'm in the kitchen doing dishes." "My mama frying chicken." Yes. That stuff right there. That was... We was talking about that yesterday 'cause Geeked Up came up on one of the playlists.

[01:09:20] Remix. AB had one, something like he was in the Waffle House. Do you be seeing him and Dee? We should, we should have a cypher. You know, in a perfect world if I didn't have to work, we could definitely run it up and just start streaming on Kick. We just gotta get the people with the backpacks to follow us.

[01:09:34] Who is the people with the backpacks? So they got these streaming backpacks. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. They expensive too. It's worth it though. It is. But the crazy thing, you gotta get people to watch you. You gotta, you gotta good connection. I think, I think if we were out- I'm too old to stream

[01:09:47] no, we, we turnt. We fun. We lit. Yeah, but I'm talking about like you- I'm too old as cr- I'm not too old ... nobody wanna see somebody be a actual, like go home to their family on stream. They wanna see the foolishness, the AB and them be in there doing. They don't wanna see somebody go to work [01:10:00] and, like, they wanna see a whole bunch of- They wanna see-

[01:10:02] niggasry. They wanna see people outside. Let me see what happens when I go here. Boom, ba-boom, boom, boom. Okay. Top five while you're doing that. Top live artists. Um. Big Sean, The Dream. The Dream is up there for sure. It's gonna be Dream, Drake. Oh, I should've said Drake. Um. You ain't gonna say Big Sean? Jacob Latimore.

[01:10:28] I'm going to who I listen to a lot, and then I'll get to everybody, uh, else. 'Cause I'm trying to- Jacob Latimore ... 'cause I have- You listen to him? A lot. You gotta send me some. Like, he's in my, he's- You gotta send me some bangs ... listen to, um, Connection 2. Connection 2 is his, like, his second, like, j- he got this thing called Connection Series.

[01:10:45] So Connection 2 is, like, the one that probably, like, you probably would, like, start listening to him from that. I'm trying to go through my totality of, like, I- out of all my phases when I would listen to different artists a lot. Like, 'cause it's so, like, many different people I would, like, listen to. You all right?

[01:10:58] Yeah. [01:11:00] Um. You said three. But I listen, I listen to Big Sean a lot though. Um, Sean Don. You need- But I'm trying to get it out of... So I'm also trying to get it out of just, like, rappers. Like, um- I have to go through my thing and see. 'Cause it's like, no... It's not even the, it's not even who I consider the best, it's just who I listen to all the time.

[01:11:21] I, I'm with you there. You know what? I got you. I just said top five, not your favorite. Yeah. Dream, Drake, Jacob, Sean, Ty Dolla $ign. I listen to a lot of Ty Dolla $ign. Surprised you didn't say J. Cole. I listen to Cole. I know you, I, I- I listen to Cole, but when it come to re- uh, playability, outside if I just wanna hear some raps, he don't have it- Mm-hmm

[01:11:42] as much. That's why his album fell off the chart. It's, it's gonna be, like, the people I name, I could... It could be people we never met, and I could just play some Ty Dolla $ign and we'll be vibing. Mm-hmm. I could play some J- I could figure out whatever Drake mix I wanna put, we can vibe. Hell, I can put the Sean mix on with certain songs Sean got, we can vibe.

[01:11:59] [01:12:00] Like, I be, I be doing Chance, he be doing, he finally did them songs with the Detroit artists. So, like, that song he got called Work Some. I be, "Natalie say you work some." Oh, man. But, um- I'm thinking ... him

[01:12:16] That's a really tough question. I'ma go PartyNextDoor at number one. Um, people I listen to the most. Ugh

[01:12:27] I listen to Ari Lennox a lot. Um- The only song I really like from her is Pressure. I like her Chicago Boy era. Um-

[01:12:42] Maybe g-, maybe I'm gonna go SZA. I'ma go, I'ma go Erykah Badu. Okay. And probably Anthony Hamilton. They said that nigga make music for people that walk to work. No matter what Not too much, oh my God. Shit, what about Jaheim?[01:13:00]

[01:13:07] I like him. I don't listen to him a lot I know. He really reincarnation of Luther Vandross Like, I, I would rather listen to Maxwell, but I have to be in the mood to listen to Maxwell. Like I can put Anthony Hamilton on, not the old sad stuff. Hey, all I know is back in like, what was that? '07, '08, what, '05 to '08, Pretty Wings went platinum, and everybody cried from Steve Harvey morning show.

[01:13:27] You know, that's, that was my grandma ringtone for probably 10 years. Man, everybody, what you call it? I don't know. This, this, I got... But you know what? I lied. 'Cause I could have put, I could have put, uh, Justin Timberlake in there too, 'cause I love Justin. I could have actually put- I love Justin ... Michael Jackson in there.

[01:13:43] I should have put Michael in there, 'cause I, you turn him on any time, it don't matter. I'm gonna be ready. Shamone Lee. Shamone. All right, let's see. Back to our regular scheduled programming. All right, guys, so we've seen the [01:14:00] first, uh, AI LLM ransomware attack. So Sysdig, a cloud security company, published what they believe is the first documented case of ransomware run entirely by an AI agent.

[01:14:13] No human at the keyboard, no human writing the script. An LLM, a large language model, did the whole attack from start to finish. They named it JPuffer. Here's how it went down. JPuffer found an internet facing server running LangFlow, an open source tool for building AI apps, and exploited a known, already patched vulnerability called CVE-2025-32...

[01:14:37] What I'm saying? CVE-2025-3248. It got in, harvested cloud credentials, and LLM API keys, used those to pivot to a separate production database, a MySQL server running on Alibaba's NACOS platform. Then it encrypted 1,300 configuration items. Then it wiped the key. Then it left a ransom note. [01:15:00] The most terrifying detail is not the attack itself, it's the adaptation.

[01:15:05] When the login attempt failed, the AI didn't stop. It diagnosed what went wrong, generated a fix, and retried successfully in 31 seconds. That's quick. Michael Clark, Sysdig's director of threat research, said, "The operation also adapted in real time, retrying failed steps within refined parameters. The LLM even narrated its own reasoning.

[01:15:30] Over 600 payloads contained plain language comments where the AI explained what it was doing and why." That's like back in the day when you would get a whooping and your parents telling you why you getting a whooping. That's what that remind me of. The narration is sending me. Didn't I tell you? Like...

[01:15:48] Actually, what we did was- Mm-hmm ... we found- And here's what the researchers keep pointing out. The individual techniques were not advanced. JPuffer used old [01:16:00] vulnerabilities, default creds, poor network segmentation, basic stuff that should've been fixed. The AI didn't need a zero-day, it needed an unpatched server and the ability to chain common mistakes together fast.

[01:16:11] Ram Varad- Vara Devarajan, Vara Devarajan, Varadojan, Varadojan, Varadojan. But Ram Varadojan, CEO of Alcoveo, put it best, "The skill floor for ransomware just collapsed from a skilled human operator to whatever compute an agent costs to run." That's the era we are in now. So here's the attack chain. The initial access was when they exploited the CVE 2025-3248 in the internet-facing Langflow server.

[01:16:44] Then they did the credential harvest, which they stole the cloud credentials, and LLM API keys stored in Langflow. In the lateral movement, they used the stolen creds to move to the MySQL production database and, uh, running off the Alibaba NACOS platform. [01:17:00] And then the exploitation was they used 2021 authen- they used 2021 auth- I'm getting tongue-tied today.

[01:17:09] They used 2021 authentication bypass flaw in NACOS to gain admin access. Encryption was they encrypted 1,342 database configuration items and key destruction. Deleted the decryption key. Payment would not restore the data. And the ransom note. Left ransom demand recovery impossible even with payment

[01:17:34] It's getting scary out here, man I'm telling you, these agents learn how to build them, learn how to protect them Like I know they was like, they go, where is that? I can't find it no more. Mm. But yeah, man, that's scary stuff. But it's just kind of, you know, a lot of stuff with Mythos and everything else.

[01:17:58] Yeah. It's just the fact that, hey- Oh, [01:18:00] we didn't even talk about how Fable had got- I saw, the Fable 5 ... revoked. Yeah. Quickly. Shut it down. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's gonna be this cat and mouse game, who can give the most, like... We, I, we had a whole bunch of topics I didn't put up there, like OpenAI only offered, like, the US, like, a 5% stake, and then, you know, people want more into the company.

[01:18:22] Um, so yeah, it's a lot of stuff. I tried to not make it, like, super drawn out, and I want us to have fun with some of this other stuff. Um, now let me- I'm the president of the Fun Club. Did you know that? The what? I'm the president of the Fun Club. Hmm. Have you ever been in the Turtle Club? Turtle, turtle.

[01:18:44] Let's go into... This is one I want you to hear, so let me find this. Okay, it's only 50 seconds. Ticky tacky. US companies are hiring up to 20% less compared to 2019, according to LinkedIn. So here are some of [01:19:00] the majors with the biggest drop in hiring: communications and journalism, business and marketing, and take a look at number two and number one, computer and information sciences- Wow

[01:19:09] and engineering. Of course, we're all thinking about AI and the emergence of that. Sure. But, you know, I, I wanted to bring this up because this has happened. If you look back historically in this country, there's always these moments, whether it's the Great Depression, the Great Recession, the dot-com, um, boom, or, or even when it comes to COVID.

[01:19:26] Like, there's always this correlation to what majors you should be focused on and where you might have to pivot if that is your focus from an educational standpoint. So always be willing to call an audible, as we say in football, especially if you're paying attention to what's happening in this country economically.

[01:19:42] Yeah. Yeah, he was a wide receiver. Let me go back to- The de- name of the degrees? Mm-hmm. So he said it was marketing. Uh, you got CIS Inter-disciplinary studies [01:20:00] and communication and journalism. Yeah, I can see how a lot of those are, are being impacted and 20% down. I think one of the reasons why is just some people just not leaving jobs, people are staying longer, uh, when it comes to working at different places in my opinion.

[01:20:14] I don't think that you should necess- necessarily get so discouraged that you're like, "Okay, I'm not gonna do this," but I think that you need to know what's going on and have a game plan on how you plan to stand out, um, versus just kind of going with the traditional path and the traditional flow because things are very, very untraditional at this time.

[01:20:34] Um, so don't get discouraged if you got a CIS degree or you're going to get an engineering degree, but do think, "What else can I do in addition with this to help make me stand out as a, as a, as a better candidate?" Yeah, I can say they reading the numbers. Like I said, my little brother just got his CIS degree.

[01:20:50] Um, he got- He got a job ... he got his first job, it's entry-level. But I think that's too, like hiring, what are they going through, I think the nuances in there is [01:21:00] definitely different 'cause I, even in seeing the people that's doing software engineering or whatever complaining. And some of the stuff will backfire.

[01:21:06] Like matter of fact, did you see that Ford had to hire them people back? Yep. 'Cause- Actually, didn't they hire, uh, like some folks that had retired? I don't know. Now that I don't know. I did see, I did see something of along those lines though. Yeah. Yeah. That actually would've made a good topic to talk about.

[01:21:20] You know how humble you gotta be to, to call them people back. Hopefully they gave them more money too. Yeah. 'Cause like why you fire me in the first place? Because you gonna spend more money on these tokens than you did with me. Ooh, the tokens is crazy. Yeah, so I don't know. That's interesting. Um, I would probably say the people who or maybe might be new grads or something like that, if you haven't, if you've been struggling in the market, uh, let us know, uh, down below and get with us on that for the most part.

[01:21:50] Um, now I wanted to... Oops. That's not what I need I wanted to talk about actually a fun one. Let me quit all those. [01:22:00] And it was one about, uh, Black and brown people. I'm gonna just say Black people, 'cause I don't know why they be trying to say Black and brown. I don't know who they consider when they say Black and brown.

[01:22:11] Just say Black and say everybody else. For real, 'cause I mean, I don't know if you considering you talking about Hispanics or you talking about other people that's brown when everybody don't operate the same in corporate. So that's kinda how I feel about when they try to say, oh, Black and brown people.

[01:22:26] Black and brown people have no place in corporate America because we're not cowards. I thought it was Asian, right? Let me explain. Cowards run corporate America, and the problem is, is that if you're Black or brown, you were raised to speak your mind, don't lie to people, have strength and courage and perseverance, and all of these virtues are amazing for just being a good human being.

[01:22:52] But corporate America is mediocre. They're cowards. They don't want strength. They, they say they do. They say they [01:23:00] want people to speak the truth, but if you do, you are now their enemy because you're exposing mediocrity. And the way that we were raised, like the culture, we would never betray people. We would never stab someone in the back, and all of th- them in corporate America will do that.

[01:23:18] And so we're looked at as a threat inside the system. And not enough people are talking about this, and the only way we can make change is by us being fed up, like enough is enough. And for me, I had a 20-year career in financial services, and it was, it was great for the first 80%, but the last 20%, I, I just wasn't gonna conform to them, and I decided to leave and become an author, and I wrote a book on this called The Corporate Coward, available on Amazon.

[01:23:43] But I'm realizing- Look at that ... I don't know if, if Black and brown people are, are gonna be able to have amazing careers because we're not gonna sell out. Sure, maybe some of us will, right? But the ones who are, like, true, like holding down to their core of how they were raised [01:24:00] it's not gonna work out for us in corporate America.

[01:24:02] And I think we just need to talk about this more. Send this to somebody in corporate America that is, uh, from the culture that has just had enough, right? Enough roadblocks, enough drama. And again, uh, I'm not, I'm not throwing shade on people who are white that are not cowards, right? I'm just speaking higher up in, uh, in the hierarchies of corporate America is filled with cowards, and it's, it's just very hard for Black and brown people to excel in that environment because we're not, w- we're not, we're not them, and we never will be.

[01:24:29] Okay. I don't like how we always give this rap that everybody that's Black has a horrible experience in the corporate world, because it's not the case. Now, do we have a lot more things that we're facing? Yes, but is everybody that's Black struggling, having a good- having a hard time, don't have good ex- corporate experiences?

[01:24:51] No. I think, so I don't think that's what his angle was. I think he was focusing on the majority. So I think, hang on, let me finish. The majority [01:25:00] is still a lot. Yeah, but I think it is. When you, when you... If we were gonna do, if we had, uh... And you might can even ask Claude this. It might know the answer. If you was to ask Claude right now, "Hey, how many CISOs are of African American descent?"

[01:25:15] If you was to ask that right now, let's see what percentage it'd give us. I can't even spell. And what he was getting at was the people who have to work for mediocre leadership And we know that these people are mediocre. We work with these people who've been places 20, 15 years and they trash. And they purposely put you through a gauntlet or make your interview harder than it's supposed to be just not to hire you.

[01:25:40] Or they can nitpick any one little thing not to hire you, then the person that they hired is a person that's not better than you. 'Cause if I go back, and you can watch it after this if you want to, but the one I did with Bryson, I was already reacting to it in the video saying, "Hey." I had already qualified him pretty much like, "Hey, [01:26:00] people I know ain't no scrubs.

[01:26:00] They done did this, this, this, and this." And shortly after that he had qualified himself what he was saying all his background was. So I was like, that's typical. That's like, like I want, I do wanna say, if I'm gonna be honest, I think since, uh, old boy been in office, I think stuff has been a little bit rougher, um, when it's come to interviewing and, and there not really being a way for protect candidates.

[01:26:24] Like I stated, why does one no gotta mean no for everybody? W- how will you know that person wouldn't buy us or was off on BS? It's why I said companies love to use them little bots when it comes to recording your interviews and getting feedback. Hey, let's figure out how we update the bot so we can make sure the bot is checking how you look on camera and see if you not being- Attentive

[01:26:45] discriminating against people. Let's see your face and look what you like. You turn your camera off, why you turn your camera off? Like, all those different things it, it plays into. Or like you said, if you speak your mind, which there's a tactful way to do [01:27:00] it, but you probably will get labeled to be a troublemaker, hard to work with.

[01:27:04] I reacted to a video of the young lady stating how she just got fired from a law firm job, and they were trying to say she was difficult to work with, but really she was just holding the people accountable because they kept on trying to put stuff on her that wasn't her fault. So every time somebody would ask her to do something, she would start screenshotting it, or if they would try to call her on Teams or something, she would record it because people was trying to make it like she was the one dropping the ball to the point where they let her go, and she had so much documentation to where she actually says she used ChatGPT for the strategy and she got a payout But I think that's what he was referring to, 'cause he said he had a, a decent career in corporate and finance for a while as well.

[01:27:45] So I don't, I don't think he was talking about the people who would be successful. I think he was just talking about how, and the basis. And we also talking about, like, think about there are certain orgs that are, that are better to work at versus most orgs- Mm-hmm ... when it comes [01:28:00] to actual diverse. Like, uh, if I could just take it off of being Black, like, just we, if we just talk about, like, diverse teams and leadership, like, it's rare to see.

[01:28:08] Like, you gonna- It says 6.8% of s- uh, CISOs identify as Black or African American. Exactly. Now, somebody is gonna say, "Well, there's not that many people that went to school for this," and I'm gonna say, "BS." Most of, of them leaders, if they did hire somebody that's Ba- I bet they more qualified than the person that's running it.

[01:28:27] Mm-hmm. And, and so that's my thing. I was like, I found the... It's okay to do the IC stuff, but I found out when you really wanna probably try to make changes org-wise, culture-wise, it's so hard when you ain't got the complexion for protection. I figured, I found that out for myself, first-hand knowledge. And that is a sucky part of just doing it.

[01:28:52] And it's not no woe is me thing, it's just literally calling it like how you see it. 'Cause everybody will say, "Oh, you know, woe is me," or, "You crying." [01:29:00] Nobody crying. You just kinda, when you know what it is, you just say, you accept it and say it is what it is a- and go on about your day, and you try to start strategizing how you gonna move a different way that you know that what you thought you would've been able to do 10 years ago, you know that- You do now

[01:29:14] that's, that's not gonna be your thing. So that's when you say, "Okay, I'm gonna pivot. I need to build out my network, and I need to figure out how I can start working for myself and leverage this based on what they do and all this other stuff and why you don't get a shot." 'Cause it, it, it definitely... I did interviews before with people where there's been, especially, it used to kill me sometimes when like, when it would be like white women.

[01:29:33] I'm just keeping it bean. And I'd go look at their experience, I was like, "We been in about the same town, amount of time. How did they get these opportunities and I didn't?" Now, somebody could say that's hate. It's definitely hate, because I'm wondering how did you... why, how were you able to do that? And I have to do this brick by brick shit.

[01:29:50] And that's the kind of stuff where you start getting mad. It's like, "This ain't, this ain't adding up, bro. What, what you put out to get in?" I'm just playing. I've met some good managers, but I'm just saying for real. [01:30:00] But, um, but no, man, um, I definitely... What he said the name of that book was? Corporate something?

[01:30:05] Mm, I don't remember. Whatever term he used. I, I should write me a book. You should. Well, I do. I got my e-book. I need to re- I gotta update it actually for 2026 just for, to make sure whatever I said in there still lines up from 2021 Okay, this is your video. Let me find it

[01:30:33] I actually, I actually came forth with, you know, a couple TikTok, couple TikToks this time I saw. I saw I was- Miss Privacy was looking for you ... I was a favorite in them. Does she live here? I don't know her. I thought you did. I mean, I think... She follow both of us, so I mean, I'm, I think I do, but I don't. You know how it's like you kinda know somebody from, like, they was- Yeah

[01:30:54] on you, but I don't know them like that. But I was like, "Yeah, she ain't been tapped in." I was like, "Look at you, posting [01:31:00] some pre-recorded stuff." You know what I mean. It was late. Better late than never, though.

[01:31:08] This is why I said what I said about Emma Grede because in this article it talks about how Deloitte and Zoom are reducing their benefits. Specifically, they're reducing the amount of weeks of paid family leave, they are reducing, um, the amount of PTO, and one of them is getting rid of the fifty thousand dollar stipend that they gave for IVF.

[01:31:29] So when I made that video about Emma Grede, I said, "Hey, there's nothing wrong with saying like, 'Hey, you need to be visible to move forward in your career.' But like we also need to talk about the conditions that make that very, very hard for women." And I think I quoted a study in that video about how most people in general do not have access to paid family leave.

[01:31:47] And before y'all get in my comments saying, "Oh, well it's okay, FMLA." FMLA is unpaid, babes. FMLA is unpaid. These are paid benefits that the companies were providing that they're no longer providing. The other point I wanna make is that, [01:32:00] um, I think these companies are using AI as an excuse to just get rid of a bunch of shit, and whether that is because their, you know, their AI budgets are being blown out from token maxing, or maybe it's because they're trying to rightsize from over-hiring in the pandemic.

[01:32:15] Whatever it is, it seems like there's a get out of jail free card that companies are trying to capitalize on by saying, "Oh, you know, everything is just too expensive. AI is expensive, so let's get rid of benefits." And in this article they also talked about how they're trying to do so without, um, impacting recruiting.

[01:32:35] But the most harmful part about this is that when big companies do this, usually everybody else follows thereafter. And so my concern is that we are about to see this domino effect of reduced benefits, but higher expectations of output because of AI, and we should all be very, very concerned Ugh. [01:33:00] That was yours, so what did, what did you feel about that?

[01:33:02] Um, s- I felt sad. I did. I felt sad because, uh, people already don't... Most people, especially folks that are not in big tech, they do get a certain amount of vacation. This whole unlimited vacation thing- It's a scam ... it, but it does not apply for a vast majority- I know ... of people in the world. And so w- let's just say you got 20 days.

[01:33:30] Now we're talking about, what, you're gonna get 15 days now? 10? You know, I don't know what it... They... We don't know the numbers, but the fact that we're not providing more moments of, of relief when folks need them. Times are harder. Families, kids, just pets. It... I just... There's so many different things. Benefits.

[01:33:55] People are paying for these benefits out of their own pockets, and those [01:34:00] premiums just keep increasing. Um, it's, it just is awful. It's terrible, and I just wanted to talk about it. Yeah. Funny enough, when you were talking about, um, PTO, unlimited PTO is a scam, too, because most companies if they got unlimited PTO, that means when you leave they don't have to pay you for what you didn't use.

[01:34:21] Mm-hmm. So that's where it's like that co- the pro is, okay, cool, 'cause most people are scared to take off. Shoot, when I had unlimited PTO, I was definitely taking off. I have it, and I don't really take that much time off, for real. Well, well, I think your job's a little bit different. Like, for me, uh, like as long as my stu- I, I didn't have deliverables.

[01:34:41] My stuff was more operations-based. But if you have deliverables, as long as they, they are knocked out beforehand, I, I think, shoot, it's fine. Shoot, take off every damn month if you got to. Shoot, take off every Friday if you can. Like, sh- why not? You got it unlimited. Like, if at the point yous gotta force them to say- And, and [01:35:00] then I think about, like, when I was working in, like, customer service and, like, those type of jobs, and just the already little amount of vacation that I got.

[01:35:08] And let's just say I'm a girl who gotta go to the doctor- Sick time and PTO is split up ... and I'm a girl who need to go to the dentist and I need to go to the eye doctor. Those are three... Uh, who said I can get that done in one day? blessings on you if you can, but that might be three separate visits. Mm-hmm.

[01:35:24] Don't let me just get sick- And then- And that's all you want me to do Now let them not be not next to each other You know what I'm saying? And so just thinking about those small moments or your, your baby graduating, right? You gotta take that off. Do you, can you even take it off? Don't even remind me.

[01:35:38] Don't even say nothing about gra- Is it a bla- is it a, is it a blackout period? Don't even say nothing about graduation. You know I didn't make either one, except my brother's. Oh. I didn't know you didn't make both. Yeah. Remember I had to lay over in ATL. I do remember that. So I couldn't get, I didn't get back until morning time and her graduation was already over.

[01:35:53] And then the thing hit me on the highway, so I didn't make it to Shreveport for that one. I do remember that one. Okay, yeah. So I didn't make Natalie's or [01:36:00] Kayden's. But, but I'm just like, im- imagine if you had to take that time off. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I just, I feel for, I feel for that, I don't know, whatever class we wanna call that, I feel for them because they're the ones that are gonna get hit hard, um, our middle class folks here and, and they're the ones that are gonna suffer.

[01:36:22] Yeah. And this is the key. This is why you do find companies that have great benefits. I was just about to say. So- And, and that's why you get to be picky and choosy and specific in your strategies to target those companies that you do know have the good benefits and the things that will help make your life a lot easier.

[01:36:39] Yeah. And your family's lives. IVF is real. Listen, before I let go of Ms. X, there was also, Zelie was born Right before I started. So they was trying to get me on before she was born because the recruiter was like, "If we can get you to start before, um..." She was born end of September. They had [01:37:00] six, they got six months parental leave.

[01:37:02] And that's some of the best that I done heard. He was like- Yeah, you got- ... and I was trying to get on- Yeah ... right. I was like, "Oh yeah, I'ma use this. I'ma..." Like, 'cause listen, six months so long, you can- Six months is a long time ... you could be, you can find you a whole nother job. Do you know that some people get off, like, a week or two?

[01:37:16] Yeah. Not to even- My- the company at the time- Forget six weeks, 'cause you're supposed to take six k- six weeks to recover as a woman per your doctor, right? But you might not even have those full six weeks off from work. Yeah, 'cause you gotta think about it too, a lot of women when they are dealing with this, some of them scared of being fired, so they try to- First of all-

[01:37:31] get to work as fast as they can ... and, and I was just finna say, and some of them are even scared to tell the job that they're pregnant. Yeah. Um, I think I had four or six weeks at the current company I w- the company I was at before Goldman Sachs. But then- And then also, too, you gotta remember, like, you're a man, too, so the, the, the men, the paternity, the, that- They don't really care

[01:37:51] uh, but it's always less, is what I'm saying. I- it's always less than what typically what, what a woman would get being that- Yeah ... she's carrying. Yeah. [01:38:00] Yeah, so... But I had, but Josh had three months, so that was, like, perfect. I was like, "Dang, I gotta go back." But, uh, but, no, I don't know. Were, were you able to, uh, like, spread it out?

[01:38:14] If I wanted to. Yeah. I took it off straight through. Back to back. Like, if I was still at Goldman, I would've spread it out. I would've said three months here and three months towards the end of it. 'Cause you gotta use it before the years up. Yep. So, to, I would like, I would've took off... If it would've been me, I would've took off October November, December.

[01:38:31] Well, I would took off through my birthday, March, April, May, and then the end. Yeah. All right, I'm back. I'm back. Refreshed, too. Mm-hmm. I think the, let me see, the last one is one of yours. Well- Oh, it's that one ... it's the, the picture that you sent me. But I'm glad you found the OG, 'cause I didn't find it. Yeah. I didn't even look for it.

[01:38:52] And we can go to, you can go, I guess you probably got the favorite. You can read, after this you can read what he said back to the people. I did. Let me change [01:39:00] the play speed. All I've been seeing on my TikTok is sweetness and people saying, "Let's do this, Johnny."

[01:39:11] Have fun. Okay, here you go. I just came back from the worst interview I've ever had, and can someone please tell me if I'm in the wrong? Because I literally hung up the call mid-interview. I said, "We're done here." So for context, I was interviewing for a biotech Y Combinator startup, and the first red flag that happened even before the interview started was the interviewer was seven minutes late.

[01:39:29] I said, "Okay, whatever. We're all late sometimes. It doesn't matter much." I continued with the interview with a smile. I didn't care at that point. We basically did a systems design round. Here was the systems design question. Let's say you have a dataset of around ten thousand images, maybe around fifteen megabytes in total.

[01:39:41] Now, this dataset has images that are corrupt, they have irrelevant images, and, uh, they have images where the subject isn't in the frame. So as a concrete example, let's say you have a raw dataset of dog images. You want to perform some sort of transformation, some sort of cleaning to get a cleaned dataset of dog images that are within the frame.

[01:39:57] The technical constraints, we have one EC2 instance with sixteen [01:40:00] megabytes of RAM and four CPUs. And just so we're very clear, this is a really simple question. I mean, I've literally trained convolutional neural networks, had over a hundred thousand images. I trained them from scratch. So I thought this was a very easy question.

[01:40:11] So I said, "Okay, let's just start with the basics." I'm like, "We're gonna create a worker that pulls from S3. We're gonna take the average size of the images to compute an ideal batch size." Then I said, "For each image in the dataset, we're, we're gonna form a deterministic validation, making sure the image is an ideal image that actually opens.

[01:40:26] And then we're gonna use some model to see if the image has the criteria we want. We can use something simple like Gemini 3 Flash. It's really good and really cheap. Finally, for checkpointing, because it's a simple one-off job, we're not running it all the time, we can just put a small volume storage on the EC2 instance and just say what batch we're on on the disk."

[01:40:42] This was my proposed solution, right? And someone correct me if I'm wrong. Is this a bad solution? Will this not work? Is this extremely expensive? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, because the interviewer had a problem with every single thing I said. The first problem he had was with the LLM Image API. He's like, "Oh, that's gonna be too expensive.

[01:40:56] Why would we use the LLM Image API? You know, that, that, that's wrong. That's wrong." I'm like, "All right, [01:41:00] bro. I didn't realize seventy dollars was out of budget. Sure." Let's drop the LLM API. Let's use a different model, a supervised learning model. He's like, "What kind of supervised learning model specifically?

[01:41:07] What do you mean by that? What do you mean? What do you mean?" I'm like, "You can use any supervised learning model. You can go on Hugging Face, find an open source model, and just use that on Hugging Face Cloud. This is not, like, the main problem. You can use a ResNet, a convolutional neural network, something simple."

[01:41:16] But that's not the only thing he had a problem with. He's like, "Okay, what about the checkpointing? Why are we running a, a volume storage for this checkpointing? It doesn't make any sense." I'm like, "Using a block volume for checkpointing is fairly standard. This is not, like, a crazy off-the-cuff solution. This is, like, a standard way of doing this."

[01:41:28] Then he's like, "Oh, you can keep the checkpoint on your local computer, and then you can S3-- SSH into the machine. You don't really need a volume storage." I'm, I'm talking about the solution that makes the most sense. I'm like, "Nigga, what the fuck? What the fuck are you talking about? I didn't-" Oh, my God. "What the fuck are you gonna keep a checkpoint on your local computer?"

[01:41:38] Hang on, hang on, hang on, 'cause he going crazy. Hang on. He went sick. Hang on. Where, where is- He went sick. He going crazy. I gotta go back and find him. Here we go.

[01:41:50] 'Cause he is He wins it Cents per gigabyte? What are you talking about? Finally, w- he's like, "All right, now put your solution into Claw Code, and let's see what Claw Code thinks of your solution." [01:42:00] And Claw Code thought my solution was fine. You know, it said, uh, a ResNet is overkill. There are CPU-based models that might be a better fit for this task.

[01:42:06] It also said it challenged the assumption that the LLM APIs was too expensive. It said it's only 70 to $100, and it'll probably be a lot more accurate, so that's kind of an odd thing to say it's too expensive, which I already knew. And then for the checkpointing, it was like, "You know, saving the checkpoint itself might be too fragile.

[01:42:18] Maybe you should instead use a manifest file." So I said, "I agree with Claw here, actually. We don't need to use a simple checkpoint. We can use a S- it's only, you know, 10,000 images. We can use a manifest file. That's fine." This is where I might be wrong. So the interviewer's like, "Well, why would you use a manifest file?

[01:42:29] That doesn't make any actual sense." I'm like, "A manifest file is basically free. I mean, 10,000 entries in a file, that's basically free." He's like, "It's not free. We need the solution that makes the most sense." At this point, I stopped sharing my screen. I looked him in the eye. I said, "I think we're done here."

[01:42:41] He looked shocked for one second, and then I hung up the call. My question to you guys is, what do you guys think of this interviewer? I mean, are you supposed to have a combative back-and-forth conversation with the interviewer? Was my solution really all that bad? Someone help me understand where I went wrong.

[01:42:56] Sounded good to me. First of all, let me go to the, uh, [01:43:00] original. So he emailed them after the interview, um, and he said, "Hi," blank. "Thank you for the opportunity to interview for" blank. "After careful consideration, I've decided to pursue other opportunities. If you'd like additional feedback, check out the video I made."

[01:43:15] And then he, he linked the TikTok and said, "Good luck with everything." But the reason why I shared that with him was because, um, just, like, the frustration level of interviewing, um, of being treated poorly in an interview, of being ghosted, of being bamboozled, of being finessed, of, of being disrespected, of being, um, treated with prejudice, people are sick of it.

[01:43:42] And you don't want to be the person that's giving the interview that goes viral because you did something that was not, um, in good standing to represent your company. Just like- What? Just like he didn't... If he would-- God forbid, he would've put a clip in of how the conversation was [01:44:00] going. He listed, or I think he, he hid who the company was f- uh, who he was interviewing from.

[01:44:05] Someone could probably figure it out. Um, yeah, it's easy, 'cause he just covered it up. But, uh, just how easy it is for you to put yourself now at, at jeopardy. No, you're not supposed to do an interview and it be a combative thing. No. Yeah. Absolutely not. He probably was feeling like this at the, at the client agreed with him with most of the solution.

[01:44:23] What do you mean by that? Like, I'm like, "Bro, he was, he was going in." Now, I definitely would've stopped it too, 'cause I'm like, "Fam, I'm not here to argue with you." Yeah. And it, it just creates a poor experience. Why would I wanna work for you if this is how y'all treating me in the interview? But, so how... Okay, prime example.

[01:44:41] I'm glad that he said that, because that is how my client said the CISO did her. Had a problem with everything they said. This or that. He asked her a question about something, she said, "Well, truthfully-" I wouldn't be a, be able to give you the best answer in terms of your environment for probably [01:45:00] one to three months because of the solution you're asking for is very specific and tailored based on what your company needs.

[01:45:06] Mm-hmm. And he was combating everything she said and acting like, um, he was just, she was just bothering him and all the other, whole bunch of stuff. I was like, so that reminded me of that. Like, they don't, you know what? My fa- the final day, I'm gonna let you read what she sent them people after the e- after the interview, 'cause they gave her a rejection.

[01:45:26] I forgot what it was, but like she read them their rights in so many words. And that is becoming more of what people are doing, especially if they feel like they're being disrespected and their time is being wasted. That's all fair. People, people are putting a lot of effort, most people, especially good, uh, candidates are putting a lot of effort into prepping for this interview to give you their best, you know?

[01:45:48] Exactly, especially, I don't know, I got mad one time, I was like, "I knocked y'all assessment out the park." I talked to this dude, and then nothing back. I'm like, "Bro, y'all be having people waste their time." Like, I'm not the one or the [01:46:00] two. And then, and then it's, it's... Yes, your time is wasted, but just think about emotionally.

[01:46:04] You don't have a job. I'm looking for a job. How does that- One, no, I think that dude had a job. I'm just talking about the people that's just- Well, I'm talking about the people who don't Oh, yeah. No, it's even worse. It's even worse for them. 'Cause you're getting your hopes up. This might be my moment. This might be for me.

[01:46:17] Mm-hmm. Yep. But I think we have made it to the end. I know we wanna wrap up. Um, and we meant, I meant to do this in the beginning in some type of way. It's my fault 'cause we don't have our stuff written over there. But we were supposed to briefly talk about the book signing Hey. How did you like it? I think we all liked it.

[01:46:42] I had a ball. I, I liked the punch. The tequila punch was good. Um, the food was good. I shoulda got some more food. I didn't wanna be doggish up there. You should have, 'cause it was a lot of food. Oh, see, I didn't know. That's okay. Yeah. I ain't know. I was like, I was trying to make sure everybody else got some.

[01:46:56] No, it was more than enough food. It was good. We got to see, um... [01:47:00] Your auntie is like your twin. Literally. Mm-hmm. How about you didn't meet my mom? That's what's crazy. I ha- asked my mom, I was like, "Did you talk to HD?" 'Cause I was doing so much, and she was like, "No." I'm like, "Man, what?" Yeah, I didn't. I was, um- You probably didn't even know

[01:47:15] I didn't. Yeah. I was over there, it was like we was kinda like all, like, mobbed up or whatever, like, talking to everybody. Um, we need to get your friend on the show. She play all day. No, no, no. Who? Um, the one that, I think he went to school with you. Sean. Sean. Sean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got to meet him and his wife.

[01:47:33] And his wife was from, um, New Orleans. And, uh, he was talking about he had the, some job where he had a, a dog and a, a gun or something. I don't know. Verizon. Yeah. So I was like, "We need him," 'cause he got some good stories. He definitely done had some really different jobs in the tech space- Yeah ... in the cyber space.

[01:47:50] And we were talking about, we all the, we were all in agreeance on, like, how them other people be messing our interviews up. That's all I'm gonna say. Yeah. 'Cause sometimes these interviews gets in the wrong hands. [01:48:00] But, um, no, it was great. Did you smell the body oils? Yeah, they smelled great. Thanks. I meant the, the funny thing is- You gotta, you gotta shout out my shirt, even though y'all can't see the back.

[01:48:08] The back is where the magic happens, what I do on my shirt. Why you just don't show 'em the shirt on camera? I don't think they're gonna be able to see the back. Yes, they will. I don't think so. Oh. Hold on. Let me try to turn around. Like, how they not gonna see it? I don't know. That- Can you see it? Yeah, all you gotta do is just stand up.

[01:48:21] They'll see it. Like up, up? No, just, like, 'cause the, the way is- Is it right there? Yeah. Just go... Yeah, they can see it. Can you see it? Cyber security- Yeah, yeah ... for the culture. They see it. Yeah, yeah, y'all. And then of course, books I had a ball. It was a dream come true. It couldn't have went any better, honestly.

[01:48:41] Mm-hmm. It looked exactly how I wanted it to look. Everybody came up, showed up, showed out. And, you know, I just wanna hear a little one, two, and I'm good. Yeah, DJ was good. Uh, camera man was good. Um, yeah, it was a good time. It was... I was mad 'cause my GPS was [01:49:00] taking me, like, stupid ways. I'm like, "Bruh, I don't need to go that way."

[01:49:03] Like, I literally coulda- 'Cause you... Yeah, 'cause you be knowing how to get around. Yeah. I literally coulda just came like I came here and just hit Spring Creek and went all the way that way. All the way down. Yeah. And so I was like, "Oh, no. That's cool." But yeah, enjoyed it. Got back. I think everybody was asleep, um, when I got back, so that was perfect.

[01:49:19] I'm so happy that weekend's over. It was a lot. I can tell. It was a lot, for real. I can tell. Everybody's popping balloons. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. I was wore out. Mm-hmm. All the... I just, I just stopped being wore out, like, two days ago, for real. I bet. Y'all was over there hitting the Kang Wang with it and- Everything and y'all probably had the after party after that.

[01:49:42] We did. We did. Yeah. So- And then I had the nerve enough to go to brunch the next day too and be out for Sunday fun day, all that ... what's funny, I forgot, but I had actually meant to ask you. We shoulda was like... We coulda went to, um- That place that's right there, it's closed down right now since they not open at this time.[01:50:00]

[01:50:00] Another Broken Egg. Mm. And I was like, I meant to say, "Did you wanna go to Another Broken Egg?" before we record it, but I forgot 'cause I was, uh, busy. I haven't been there in so long. Me either. I miss being over here. What's the... Whistle Britches. I could have settled for some Whistle Britches, but I haven't had them since I stopped eating meat, so I don't know what I would get 'cause I know a lot of their stuff is chicken-based, like fried chicken.

[01:50:21] Mm. But- They got, uh- But I'ma, I'ma tell, I'ma tell you the truth, it does not matter though 'cause their food is off the chain. They be hit or miss. And their drinks. And opinions, they be hit or miss. I like their mimosas. The biscuits be good. Yeah. The cornbread's good. Yeah. Let me s- l- before we go, let me double-check and see if anybody left us a- Are you a jelly and biscuit?

[01:50:40] Yes, I am. 'Cause I don't play that. I like syrup too. Nah, that gravy, I don't play gravy. I don't like no gravy for real like that. Especially 'cause they be putting little pork and beans and all that type of stuff in it. Okay, nah, we didn't get no voice mails. Okay. So, um, guys, we are out of here [01:51:00] until we see you next time.

[01:51:02] What they say on the flip side? Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you. In the words of my kids' speech teacher, "See ya."