215: Why is Apple suing OpenAI?

Why is Apple Suing OpenAI _! Ep_ 211 _ The Techtual Talk
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[00:00:00] HD: Yo, what's going on everybody? What's going on? Appreciate y'all for whoever that's tuned in right now, appreciate y'all right now. Y'all said y'all want us to go back live, and that's what we're doing. So, uh, without further ado, let's do the drops

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[00:01:04] Now, granted, I do have a Kick that I started, so this is the second time streaming to Kick. So if you watching us from Kick, whenever you see this, I appreciate y'all. But, um, let's go ahead and get into... Let me see, what was I talking about earlier? I'm a, I'm a start it off again. We'll get into whatever topics we may have.

[00:01:22] Ah, man, it's a lot of stuff. I think one of the ones I was talking about was, um... You were supposed to remind me. You

[00:01:32] cybershortiee: know I'm terrible. We talked about a lot of good things. Um, I don't know.

[00:01:43] HD: So I know one of the things I wanted to talk about was, um Knowing what you don't know is a good skill.

[00:01:53] cybershortiee: For sure.

[00:01:54] HD: And this is for the people-- And I'm gonna actually do a reaction video to this.

[00:01:58] There's a longer video that I saw by like a [00:02:00] recruiter I follow on YouTube that makes like a lot of, uh, good content, and he was talking about all these AI resumes and everything else. And the reason why I'm saying that is if anybody has ever worked with me on the coaching level, typically if I talked to you in the past or I've gave you any advice in the past, what I tend to do is go through, I spend about a month inbox, and I just see how you doing, you got a job, you didn't, what's going on, what's working, what's not.

[00:02:23] And so I was reaching out to a person, which I don't know if they're gonna become a client. We did a, a consult a while back, and I told that person that, "Hey, you really don't need any more certifications. It's really your resume, your LinkedIn, and your whole strategy related to getting to a job." That person really didn't listen to that.

[00:02:42] They went and got some more C certs. Uh, what was it? It's some, it's some good certs now, don't get me wrong. And then we continued to talk, and they sent me their updated resume. And I looked at it, I was like, matter of fact, let me see, 'cause I'm a person, y'all know me, I don't like to cap. So I could find out exactly what I said back to the resume right [00:03:00] here.

[00:03:00] I could read it out verbatim. And anybody should know. Um, why is he asking me this now? Go find the link. Go find the link, sir. Yes, yeah.

[00:03:20] All right So

[00:03:31] He does watch the show, so he may or may not get mad at this, but this is what I couldn't say 'cause we didn't talk on the phone about this. Uh, he went and got some more certs

[00:03:42] So he sent me the updated resume. He got the CCZT, which I don't really know what that is. You can look it up while I'm on doing this thing. CC, Charlie, Charlie, Zulu, Tango. That's what it is. Uh, he was just talking about probably moving out here because the job market where he is, is, is sucking. So I [00:04:00] told him, when I looked at the resume, I said, "Hey, you got a good foundation there, but, uh, some stuff is missing, and it's too much white space in the resume."

[00:04:08] And, uh, I, I said something about, you know, we talked a while ago about getting some coaching, and he said, "Interesting." And so this would like have me a little bit perturbed because he said this resume has been looked over by four different LLMs. And in my mind I was like, "What's that supposed to mean to me?"

[00:04:25] Uh, and then he said, "I'm not buying anything without guaranteed results. If I buy OSCP and OSEP and pass, I know I get those certifications. Any coaching guidance, of course, can't even guarantee me an interview or connections. I'm going to keep upping my skills and getting advanced offensive certifications.

[00:04:43] I'll brute force my way into a better role by sheer credentials." I'm

[00:04:45] cybershortiee: screaming.

[00:04:46] HD: Just have to do my profile. That sounds like an AI

[00:04:48] cybershortiee: message.

[00:04:49] HD: Um-

[00:04:50] cybershortiee: But I'ma brute force my way in.

[00:04:53] HD: I just told him, right, and I said, "Only thing I can't guarantee you is getting hired because I don't control that." But I've never not had anybody immediately seeing [00:05:00] uptick in proper emails and getting interviews right after working with me.

[00:05:02] Like, literally, I got some guys that only had experience he has that's currently in interview processes. And I was saying, um, I said, also, LLMs don't know everything. If you did-

[00:05:14] cybershortiee: It doesn't matter if you ran it through 56 LLMs. What is the prompt you're using? Right.

[00:05:18] HD: No, I... Not even that, don't even worry about the prompt.

[00:05:20] I said, "If it did know everything, you would be getting more res- ... more responses." So I'm saying that to say, like, everybody thinks they can just, you know, AI themselves, like, out of, like, getting jobs, stuff like that, but sometimes that really ain't gonna help you You gotta go to a person that know how to write resumes, that also knows how to prompt AI to help with the resume if you need help in that way, and can look at it.

[00:05:47] Because also, A- LLMs will just throw stuff on the job, like, or your resume, and it don't make sense when you read it back. The video that I'm talking about reacting to is talking about how the recruiter was talking [00:06:00] to a guy who was hiring for, like, a, was it software developer role or something like that?

[00:06:03] But they, they found, like, 10 or 12 resumes that looked completely the same, and they really didn't make sense, and they were too much like the job

[00:06:10] cybershortiee: description. But, but just because the LLM can give you some good output doesn't mean that it's gonna look different. Because people know what an AI-written resume looks like, and you don't know, because how would you know?

[00:06:24] So- Not you, but-

[00:06:25] HD: Yeah,

[00:06:25] cybershortiee: yeah ... how would you know? How would you know, how would you know that your, your resume reeks AI wrote this?

[00:06:30] HD: But the thing is, it's not even affecting, like, a AI-written resume. It's just missing things, missing impact. It's mixing metrics. Mm-hmm. It don't read like a person that, "Hold on, who is this?

[00:06:41] We should stop and talk to this person." Yeah. It doesn't read like that. And so when I said, "Hey, it's missing some stuff," it's missing some stuff. So when I have consults and I say, "Okay, like, tell me..." I do one of two things. On the call I either say, "Tell me about the stuff that you kind of achieved in the role," or I'll say, "At this call, send me all the stuff you achieved, all the things you know how to [00:07:00] do," whatever, and I try to make it align.

[00:07:01] 'Cause he also has a lot of different certs that they don't go necessarily with the job he's trying to get.

[00:07:10] cybershortiee: And that cert that he got was the Certificate of Competence in Zero Trust- Okay ... by the Cloud Security, uh, Alliance.

[00:07:14] HD: Yeah, 'cause he's a, he's a cloud security engineer, but some of the certs I think he could have removed 'cause they didn't make sense on his resume anymore either. But I didn't tell him that because, like, hey, come get it from the source.

[00:07:24] Like, find out for me on, uh, what you need to do. So, I don't know, that's just my little one-time rant. We'll probably have some more stuff that I get into when it talks about career coaching between that and investing in yourself, and investing with a person that you can just go back and look over the six years what I'm about.

[00:07:43] I think that's what you should focus on if you think about working with me. But, uh, while we are here, let me go ahead and read off the topics real quick. Give me a second. I got it. No, I got the, um, I gotta put the, the graphic up on here real quick[00:08:00]

[00:08:08] Okay, so guys, some of our major topics today will be about CISA had no IR playbook, Apple, of course, is suing OpenAI, Meta's AI and your camera roll, the bag on who's actually getting paid, and Cash App and the 45 million views. And if you just got here and you like what you talking about, hit the thumbs up button.

[00:08:32] That's all you gotta do. But

[00:08:33] cybershortiee: I think, do you wanna go through the CISA thing or you want me to go through it? I can hit CISA up again.

[00:08:36] HD: Okay, go ahead.

[00:08:37] cybershortiee: All right, so CISA wrote the playbook during the incident. So this

[00:08:45] is the story of the week. CISA, the US government cybersecurity agency, the one whose entire job is to defend the federal networks, has just published a poorest, a postmortem on an incident from back in May. [00:09:00] And buried in that report is a sentence that made me and HD sit straight up. So they said they had their staff -- When they said that their staff had to spend time building an incident response plan playbook during the early stages of the incident.

[00:09:17] So what that means is that they did not have a playbook in place, a response plan in place that they could follow, and they were building it as the incident basically unfolded. Now, during the incident, um, I don't know, that's just insane to me. One of-- The more I think about it, it's just insane. Everybody knows that that is the most basic thing to do, is to have some sort of SOP or a response playbook that you know what to do.

[00:09:42] But an incident response playbook is basically the pre-written game plan. If X were to happen, here's exactly who you need to call. Here's who has authority to shut things down. Here are the first five, six, whatever it may be, however many things that you need to do. So you write it up right on a [00:10:00] calm Tuesday, so that on the worst day of your career, you're not making it up.

[00:10:06] You don't want this to, to be a fire drill. Um, it's basically your emergency exit map on the back of your door. So CISA's first mortem says, "Yeah, we're drawing the exit map while people were already in the hallway." How did it happen? Back in May, security journalist Brian Krebs reported that- A researcher at a firm called GitGuardian found a public GitHub repository, public as in anyone on the internet could see it, that had been uploaded by an employee of a CISA contractor, and it was full of credentials and keys for accessing US government systems.

[00:10:41] GitHub is where developers store and share code, so think Google Drive, but for software. A public repo means that there was no lock on that door, and credentials and keys are really just the digital equivalent of the keys to a building or the alarm code that's written on a sticky note, something like that.[00:11:00]

[00:11:00] Now, the researcher tried to alert the contractor. Of course, there were crickets. Nobody got back to them. It wasn't until Krebs, who was a reporter, contacted CISA directly, that the agency pulled the repo down and rotated all of those credentials that had been exposed. And CISA says something else in the postmortem that I think that the actual headline, um, would imply.

[00:11:21] They admitted that their channels for security researchers to report problems were not well-defined, and that's kind of common in a lot of organizations. They are afraid to admit it. So if we put the whole picture together, a researcher found the fire, couldn't find anyone to talk to, had to go through the press, and then when the agency finally moved, they were writing the response plan at that time in real time.

[00:11:46] Um, now I do want to be clear about this. CI- CISA did publish this information themselves. They didn't get caught. They were responsible and self-reported kind of what was going on. They did state that no... it was exposed. They thanked the [00:12:00] researcher and the reporter for giving them the information. And since then, they have, um, you know, made some improvements to their reporting tran- their reporting, um, channels.

[00:12:10] But I feel like the transparency here is that the They were honest about kind of what they faced. They were honest about the fact that they didn't already have a response plan in place. A lot of professionals in organizations would've really buried some of those key details, but I think that the lesson sitting right in front of us is, is that you need to make sure that you have these type of plans in place, and you also need to be doing different type of drills so that you understand when something does happen, before it happens, this is kind of what we should do.

[00:12:41] These are the steps that we should take. A lot of the times folks don't practice this, uh, you know, in a tabletop scenario, and then when an incident happens, everybody's kind of frantic because this is their first time having to actually follow that response plan. And then also making even updates to the response plan as well.

[00:12:57] Like, just because you had it [00:13:00] in place 10 years ago doesn't mean that same response plan is relevant today. So yeah, I think that there were three gaps revealed. First gap, there were secrets in code. Um, so hard coding those credentials, we know that that, especially into a repo, is one of the most common mistakes.

[00:13:16] We talked about this last week. We also have third party risk is still the underbelly here. And then the vulnerability disclosure is broken, um, down at most organizations. Um, so again, a lot of folks are finding vulnerabilities, but they might not have a good way to contact that organization to let them know, "Hey, this is what we found."

[00:13:36] And so in this situation, they had to go to the press, um, because there was not a clear way for them to contact the company or to report said vulnerability. Um, so being prepared is always better than being unprepared.

[00:13:51] HD: Yeah. Sorry, I had to... I didn't realize that we didn't have the right mics on, so it was using this mic.

[00:13:58] So there's like, it sound like we was talking in a [00:14:00] fishbowl. So I'm low-key.

[00:14:01] cybershortiee: Oh, did we fix it?

[00:14:02] HD: Yeah, I fixed it. Okay. Good. I'm, I'm, I'm thinking like, "Yo, do we gotta go back to the beginning?" Let me ask them. Hey, put a one in the chat if you want me to go back on a little bit of what I said in the beginning, because I know y'all probably couldn't hear me that good.

[00:14:14] Um, but to get on what you talking about with, with CISA, it goes to show about those budgets and how they ain't had a director- Bye ... for a year. And not only that, even if they had a director of the year, something like that, they still should've had some type of playbook or process about it. And it also just goes back when I always talk about, like, the government agencies, how to me, outside of the, the clearances, a lot of stuff they do with old, it's very lax, it's very easy.

[00:14:41] Lee literally just sent me a message, um About like, yeah, these gov roles are a joke. 'Cause a guy posted a role from GDIT and said, "Hey, I've been there, done that. This role was a joke." And every time somebody said they was interested, he said, "If you don't want your brain to get smoother, I suggest like going to find something else."

[00:14:59] tiktok: [00:15:00] Mm.

[00:15:00] HD: So I don't know, man. So I don't know if they heard my drops earlier, so let me go back to them real quick. If y'all in the chat, you know what I'm saying? Hit the like button.

[00:15:08] tiktok: You are now watching The Chessual Talk hosted by Ice T and

[00:15:19] HD: Silly Shorty. Hit the like button. Hit the like button, man. Hit the... My, my girl said y'all watching the show and, and y'all gotta hit the like button. So, um, just do what they ask. They young, so respect the ladies

[00:15:30] cybershortiee: I just can't believe that there was no incident response plan at all

[00:15:36] HD: You'll be surprised

[00:15:37] cybershortiee: No, I'm n- I'm, I'm not surprised.

[00:15:41] I'll say that. I'm surprised that it's CISA. I'm not surprised that it happened, but I'm surprised that it's them. They didn't have anything? Like, that is so ... I'm panicking like I'm them in the midst, in the heat of the moment. Like, that's, that's a lot of stress. Building the plan out, I don't-

[00:15:57] HD: Yeah. Um-[00:16:00]

[00:16:02] Like I say, you, you'll go to companies and you talk to them and you do interviews like, "Yeah, we're trying to mature X, Y, Z," and you be like, "Hold on. Y'all got billions in revenue. Y'all trying to mature what?" And so it just goes to show you that it's never too late to start learning something. I was briefly telling Shorty before we recorded that, hey, there are companies that are still on-prem going to the cloud.

[00:16:24] Specifically, I'm gonna tell you, I've come across a lot of companies that are Microsoft shops. Learn Azure, learn some of the Microsoft security tools. You'll be surprised on what you will be able to do, because a lot of people that have the companies, they don't know how to use it either.

[00:16:38] cybershortiee: Azure is a beast, I'm not gonna lie.

[00:16:41] HD: I think it's fairly simple. It reminds me of

[00:16:43] cybershortiee: Windows. It's, it's not difficult, but there are a lot... Well, I won't say it's not difficult. It depends on what you're trying to do, but Azure is a big tool. They can't hear me?

[00:16:53] HD: Talk.

[00:16:54] cybershortiee: A, B, C, D, E, F, G.

[00:16:55] HD: Okay, cool. Somebody said, "Was your mic on?" I don't know, but I, uh, moved it [00:17:00] closer to you.

[00:17:00] Uh, you should- You got the same volume I got, so.

[00:17:02] cybershortiee: Okay.

[00:17:03] HD: Uh, you should be good. But-

[00:17:05] cybershortiee: No incident res- I, I don- I'm, I'm still there. At the playbook. I, I'm, I'm, I'm s- having, having a hard time with that. Yeah, 'cause- Because, 'cause in school we learn how to make, how... We learn what goes into a incident response plan.

[00:17:18] You learn what resources you can use to build your own incident response plan at organizations. So I don't- Yeah, 'cause let me see ... nobody ever, they never had a incident?

[00:17:30] HD: That's what I'm saying, 'cause even, let's take it off of-

[00:17:32] cybershortiee: They have had a incident, 'cause we've talked about them before ...

[00:17:36] HD: like, even if they do that, a simple one that's not as, uh, big as that is something like when you have to rotate like your, your AWS keys and stuff like that.

[00:17:44] cybershortiee: Yeah.

[00:17:44] HD: Pretty much similar thing, but a might be slightly

[00:17:46] cybershortiee: different. But why are people keeping their secrets in public repos?

[00:17:48] HD: Because these people are not qualified to do they jobs, and they make, they, they- And,

[00:17:54] cybershortiee: and clearly they're not using a tool to scan those repos- Mm-hmm ... to let them know about said vulnerabilities.

[00:17:59] HD: Yeah. [00:18:00] And-

[00:18:00] cybershortiee: Or risk ...

[00:18:01] HD: they make your interview harder than your actual job. That's, that's what I gotta say about that. Um, let's see. Where are we?

[00:18:14] Let's go into what this episode is, uh, titled real quick

[00:18:24] Where are we? All right, so Apple is suing OpenAI

[00:18:32] So we're going from the government to a good old-fashioned corporate showdown. Apple has filed a lawsuit against OpenAI, trade secret theft, and a breach of contract. With that said, the complaint is spicy. Apple filed in the Northern District of California, and they're not framing this as a couple of bad apples, pun intended.

[00:18:51] They're alleging a pattern, and they're alleging it was directed from the top. They named OpenAI's Chief Hardware Officer Tang Tan, [00:19:00] who, in this detail that makes the whole thing land, spent 24 years at Apple, most recently as a VP of product design for the iPhone and Apple Watch What does the complaint accuse him of?

[00:19:15] Using Apple's confidential internal project code names during OpenAI's recruiting process, asking job candidates to bring Apple hardware components with them to interviews, coaching departing Apple employees on how to get around Apple's own security procedures, and asking for details about unannounced products.

[00:19:33] Apple's whole culture is secrecy. Internal projects get code names specifically so that even people inside the building don't know what they're working on. If those code names are showing up in a competitor's job interview, that's not a coincidence. That's a signal. There's a second person named, is that Cheng Lu?

[00:19:49] tiktok: Yep.

[00:19:50] HD: Yeah, Cheng Lu, eight years at Apple as a senior systems electrical engineer. Apple alleges that he left for OpenAI in 2026, never returned his Apple-issued laptop [00:20:00] Hang on, where we at?

[00:20:07] And used it to download confidential technical documents, and that he's been-- And then that he shared Apple's confidential information with other Apple employees who were interviewing at OpenAI, including advising at least one of them what to study before the interview. Apple says they sent OpenAI a letter about this back in February.

[00:20:26] They say they got no response. And then there's a line from the filing that everybody's going to quote. Apple says, "This is the tip of the iceberg." Hmm, that's kinda scary. Now, here's the why now. OpenAI is widely rumored to be building its first hardware product. Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo suggests back in April it could be a smartphone, one where AI agents replace apps entirely, and OpenAI already bought Jony Ive's device startup, IO, for six and a half billion dollars last year.

[00:20:56] Ive, by the way, is not named in this filing. That IO is. So [00:21:00] Apple isn't just protecting IP. Apple is looking at a company that might be building a thing that competes with the iPhone

[00:21:07] So, uh, for people that's listening, for trade secrets, confidential business information that gives you a competitive edge, designs, processes, supplier lists, specs, unlike a patent, it's protected by keeping it secret, not by registering it. Specific allegations, code names used in recruiting candidates, asked to bring hardware components to interviews, departing employees coached to evade security procedures, unreturned Apple laptop used to download confidential docs.

[00:21:31] A proprietary metal finishing technique allegedly used by OpenAI after a partner was misled into thinking Apple had approved it. Come on, now.

[00:21:40] cybershortiee: That part.

[00:21:41] HD: Apple wants to bar OpenAI from using, disclosing the trade secrets, return of confidential materials, evidence preservation. Apple says it lacks visibility into what is happening inside of OpenAI.

[00:21:52] Court gives them the legal discovery and the power to compel documents and testimony. Sometimes the lawsuit is the investigation. [00:22:00] Hmm. So-

[00:22:01] cybershortiee: I got some more tea there.

[00:22:02] HD: Okay.

[00:22:03] cybershortiee: So it looks like, um, I wanna get more to the, the show and tell detail is worse than reported. So Apple alleges that Tan directed candidates to bring actual parts, those parts being batteries, logic boards, and SIPs to interviews, and that OpenAI asked for CAD design artifacts and prototypes, plus details on subsystem and component selection, integration tooling, and vendor selection.

[00:22:33] And I think that that's insane. To an interview? You're, you're clearly- They- And, and are they not signing NDAs? 'Cause you usually have to sign an NDA before you interview about how they won't use this, you know, all this infor- whatever. Huh?

[00:22:50] HD: OpenAI right now. Like... Hold on. Where's the other one at? 'Cause-

[00:22:56] cybershortiee: And they're partners, though, so it's really weird.

[00:22:59] Man,

[00:22:59] HD: it's [00:23:00] kinda low, but-

[00:23:01] tiktok: You're not getting it. It's not clocking to you. It's not clocking to you that I'm standing on business, is it?

[00:23:07] HD: That's Apple back to him.

[00:23:08] cybershortiee: No, for real. But

[00:23:10] HD: how you gonna know I'm not supposed to take something from my company to another company interview?

[00:23:14] cybershortiee: No, how, how y'all using these...

[00:23:17] I- it's a lot

[00:23:18] HD: going on there. And I'm trying to understand how were they... Okay, I got an idea how this went for the insider threat then Did the guy never say he was gone, so he still had access to his Apple laptop?

[00:23:34] cybershortiee: Why did he not return the laptop?

[00:23:35] HD: That's what I'm saying.

[00:23:36] cybershortiee: Why did y'all let him not return the laptop?

[00:23:37] HD: But

[00:23:37] cybershortiee: no,

[00:23:37] HD: just,

[00:23:37] cybershortiee: but this w- Why did you not wipe the laptop?

[00:23:38] HD: But this is what I'm saying though. He might've already downloaded some before he even said, "I'm gone."

[00:23:43] cybershortiee: And that's why you need to have data security.

[00:23:45] This is why da- I do data security. But

[00:23:47] HD: they should know that, but-

[00:23:48] cybershortiee: This is why data security is important ...

[00:23:50] HD: it's one of them things too where people, um, we know how it works in corporate if a person does a certain job, sometimes they get leeways to do things to where maybe they didn't have [00:24:00] the, uh, data properties labeled the correct way on their device, and so they was able to download it.

[00:24:06] cybershortiee: But I think the scary part is that Apple is not just saying, "You stole our stuff," or, "You took our stuff." You took our stuff and you took our people and you told them how to steal on the way out. That's insane.

[00:24:21] HD: Do you think ChatGPT helped him out with that?

[00:24:24] cybershortiee: I mean, yeah. Probably the head honcho.

[00:24:28] HD: I was being funny.

[00:24:28] Act- like, did they ask ChatGPT how they can steal they stuff from

[00:24:31] cybershortiee: them? I'm sure. E- everybody asking it everything else these days. And it's a 40-page complaint. That's insane. A laptop that never got returned and a guy who pretended like he didn't know the rules. You know what you is and you ain't supposed to do on that level.

[00:24:48] HD: Right. Right.

[00:24:49] cybershortiee: Insider risk is real. Data security can help take care of that. Get into data security. If you wanna get into data security, hit me up. I'll talk to you about it.

[00:24:57] HD: Yeah, man. Yeah, that's crazy. Um, and [00:25:00] so, uh, briefly for anybody that's coming in, I briefly was telling people about AI and how just because AI tells you...

[00:25:06] It reminds me of one time I had a client who put his r- his interview through AI and it said he did well, but when I listened to it, I didn't hear the same thing. And so there is a bias of using AI that it's mostly gonna agree with you did well. That's why I like to use transcripts so it can look at what's h- saying, being said, not listening, but it can see what's saying back and forth and see if it's actually good or not.

[00:25:29] Now-

[00:25:30] cybershortiee: I can't believe they didn't wipe the laptop.

[00:25:33] HD: I think it was- It- But you gotta think about it though. The wipe only gonna happen if it's gonna connect to Apple's network.

[00:25:39] cybershortiee: Yeah, 'cause it is, uh-

[00:25:43] HD: So that's what I'm saying. If he got the job and then worked the job for a little bit and then said, like think about it, the perfect scenario is-

[00:25:52] cybershortiee: Endpoint management is not my, my, uh, endpoint management is not my thing, but endpoint DLP is my thing

[00:25:58] HD: Well, I'm, I'm saying it because [00:26:00] we have to, like if somebody immediately gets terminated or something like that, we got a, a playbook that we run through that we go contain the host or something like that.

[00:26:06] However, if you don't know the person being fired, the person decides to say, "Oh, I'm gonna take three- And, and- ... three weeks of PTO."

[00:26:13] cybershortiee: And, and then on top of it, it was the role, they were a VP. So because they were in that elevated position, there should've been some elevated things- But- ... being done. Like you, they should've been looking back over the last 30, 60, 90 days to see what this person has been doing.

[00:26:29] That's, yeah, it's- That, but that should be a trigger. Yeah, it's RBA. The, so the trigger, the trigger was that you're leaving the company, that's the trigger to go then look back to see what have you been doing over the last few months with our data.

[00:26:41] HD: Yeah. That's RBA. But also though-

[00:26:43] cybershortiee: What's RBA?

[00:26:44] HD: Uh, risk-based- Oh

[00:26:46] uh, access.

[00:26:46] cybershortiee: Yeah, yeah.

[00:26:47] HD: No, actually, no, I'm lying. RBA stands for- Role ... risk-based alerting.

[00:26:51] cybershortiee: Alerting.

[00:26:52] HD: I said access. I was thinking about access and name, but that should've been a RBA rule because certain things, if it has certain type of [00:27:00] severity, it shouldn't be downloaded. That data.

[00:27:01] cybershortiee: Exactly. Exactly.

[00:27:02] HD: So it should've been-

[00:27:03] cybershortiee: Especially in mass amounts, but also I will say a lot of the times companies do be having this stuff in place, but the triggers, they be, they be so high.

[00:27:11] HD: Nah, it shouldn't matter. Something like this, hey, the RBA rule, like, uh, confidential information being downloaded, not connected directly on Apple's network. Like you could be connected through the VPN, but if you're not directly plugged into the network, why are you, why

[00:27:24] cybershortiee: are you downloading that data? But that would, that would definitely be like a more, uh, of a, a, a DLP endpoint policy-

[00:27:29] HD: Um-

[00:27:29] cybershortiee: targeting that specific device.

[00:27:31] HD: Well, both. So on, uh, the blue team side, right, if we see a service account or somebody make some changes in the cloud that we didn't see in the 90 days, it very well could have happened 60 days ago.

[00:27:42] cybershortiee: Mm-hmm.

[00:27:42] HD: But because we didn't see it in 90 days, it'll trigger an alert, and then that's why you gotta go look at the history and see is this actually expected or what?

[00:27:49] And a lot of times it's hard to do because most times based on what your, um, logging would be, a lot of people only carry like 90 days worth of logs in their SIM.

[00:27:58] cybershortiee: 1000%.

[00:27:59] HD: And you gotta de-thaw [00:28:00] like anything else.

[00:28:00] cybershortiee: Yep.

[00:28:01] HD: But for him, it should've been immediately. For certain people, it, that guy I think might have been like high up there.

[00:28:07] Certain people there-

[00:28:08] cybershortiee: He was definitely high up there ...

[00:28:10] HD: those are the type of people that-

[00:28:11] cybershortiee: But, but he should be like a, a, a not a protected user, but like a, what's the word I'm looking for? VIP? Yeah. Yep.

[00:28:18] HD: But- Yep ... so here's the thing, I'm pretty sure that-

[00:28:20] cybershortiee: A, or, or priority. Priority person. Yeah ...

[00:28:23] HD: I'm pretty sure that people like him 'Cause I would do it.

[00:28:28] If I was running stuff, people like him, I would definitely say, "Hey, on our execs, on these people that do specialized roles, advance email monitoring on their emails."

[00:28:38] cybershortiee: But, but that's why it's important for, for the people who are managing the tools to... Because just 'cause you're VP, because VPs do feel like, "Well, I'm VP, I need to get this, this, this, this, and this," and this is important in why you're supposed to give them a very granular posit- or p- positions, permissions- Mm-hmm

[00:28:56] um, within your company because they have the [00:29:00] ability to wreak havoc on your environment. And, and I don't know if they have a insider risk tool in place, but it would- They do ... it, this, it would've picked up on, it should have picked up on a lot of the things that were happening.

[00:29:12] HD: Yeah. Of course. Of course.

[00:29:14] But we know how that is.

[00:29:16] cybershortiee: Yeah.

[00:29:17] HD: We definitely know how it is.

[00:29:18] cybershortiee: And, and just 'cause you have the tool in place and it's on don't mean it's configured best for your environment and your employees.

[00:29:24] HD: Yeah, and that's where the whole top-down approach goes from, like you said, you got... That's why it shouldn't be silo, 'cause you got your threat intel, you got your blue team, you got your insider threat people.

[00:29:35] They are supposed to be making stuff specifically for that. But like I said, I don't know if Buddy had down... Like, I don't know. Like, I would love to-

[00:29:45] cybershortiee: To get more-

[00:29:45] HD: Yeah ... to the story ... to follow this- Yeah ... to figure out what happens when this go, hopefully goes to court. Like, know what would be cool? You know how like-

[00:29:52] cybershortiee: It's confusing though, 'cause they're also partners.

[00:29:55] HD: It don't matter.

[00:29:56] cybershortiee: I know. I-

[00:29:56] HD: Keep, what they say? Keep your friends close

[00:29:58] cybershortiee: and your enemies closer. But, but it's confusing because [00:30:00] what does that do to the partnership? Yeah. Because Apple Intelligence is powered by-

[00:30:05] HD: I mean, hey, th- they might, they might start using Anthropic 'cause you trying to steal from me.

[00:30:10] cybershortiee: Off-boarding is serious, and a lot of companies, they're not managing that process well.

[00:30:14] HD: At all, at all. That, that goes into everyone

[00:30:16] cybershortiee: else's vid- And then we can, we can have a whole episode about that.

[00:30:19] HD: Yeah. Kendall and I, we were talking about how, uh, I'm not gonna say her company name so it don't be like she was telling me something that happened at that company.

[00:30:26] But, uh, a very popular consulting company dealt with a security breach this week, and we were talking about how she foreshadowed some of the stuff happening because of things were made in the company that, hey, if you start using AI, it's gonna ench- increase your chance of getting a promotion. And then we started talking about how a lot of companies do not have DLP pro- uh, protections and other type of protections for people using AI in their environment.

[00:30:53] cybershortiee: And no, a, a lot of companies have a lot of things in audit mode 'cause they scared to block people. Mm-hmm. They scared to, they scared to [00:31:00] cause drama and chaos inside of the organization.

[00:31:03] HD: Yeah, for sure. For sure. Um, while we were, um, on that hot topic, what I actually wanted to do is... And let me, let me go down here real quick.

[00:31:13] We'll go to scene three.

[00:31:14] cybershortiee: While you doing that, y'all, who y'all think is in the wrong? Is, is, is, is Apple, is they right for calling them out? Or- Is OpenAI in the wrong? OpenAI know they wrong for that

[00:31:30] HD: So let's go to something... Let's, let's, let's, uh, switch up the tempo. Know Chris Brown real quick. And we gonna talk about something that y'all love to talk about, entry-level in cybersecurity.

[00:31:39] Let's talk about

[00:31:41] tiktok: it. Security was never meant to be entry level is the argument that I constantly hear all the time, and people are right but for the wrong reason. The reason should not be you need to go pay your dues at help desk, although that is a great IT role to start in. So my sources include a SANS survey of around 900 global respondents.

[00:31:56] 56% of those people come from North America, which include [00:32:00] hiring managers, leadership, and HR, the people that are looking at your resume. The second source is my personal experience working in the field. So reason one, it's always about money. Companies don't want to have to pay you to have the basic IT knowledge before you secure something.

[00:32:13] In reality, training costs money. They just want you to come in with the knowledge. One of the biggest hiring struggles they mentioned in the report is they struggle to hire senior, mid-level, and expert talent, so they're not fighting over the smartest junior. This unfortunately creates a problem that SANS calls the career progression problem.

[00:32:30] So what happens when your senior level wants to retire? And they will. So second reason is AI takes over monotonous work. For example, a junior inputting an IP into VirusTotal, I would call it automation, or analyzing a phishing email. Now we might just throw that work into AI where they've seen thousands of juniors do it.

[00:32:48] But this also creates a secondary problem to this, where we have a junior that was learning the ropes by doing this type of monotonous work, and now you can't develop the logic needed to progress. And my [00:33:00] third reason is cybersecurity, honestly, I feel like it's a marketing term. People have been doing this before it was even called cybersecurity, which is why so many people come from various IT backgrounds.

[00:33:08] And 20 years from now, it'll probably be called something else.

[00:33:12] HD: That's a hot take. I respect Alex for that take. Um-

[00:33:20] What you think about that? I know you got a lot to say on that, as in you had an unconventional rise to get into cyber.

[00:33:24] cybershortiee: I think that the way that the world is changing these days, it does make it less, um, ideal for people who are actually starting out at a real true and honest entry level phase. Um, we are seeing that those positions are kind of going away.

[00:33:45] Um, or even the time and the knowledge and the skills and the experience that you gain in those roles, you're not able to gain because a lot of that is already being automated. And so a lot of the logic and a lot of the sense that you would make of, um, you know, working in that type [00:34:00] of role, you're not able to grasp it like you were in the past.

[00:34:05] And I don't think that that's... I think that's gonna continue to get worse, and I think it just proves more of a fact of how important it is for you to be doing kind of your own thing, labbing in your own environment. Because you might not get a chance to do a lot of the things, um, that are entry level, um, because it might be assigned or automation might be taking that away from, from you and I guess kinda like your experience.

[00:34:34] I don't know. It's rough out here. It's a lot going on. It's a lot going on

[00:34:42] HD: So let me go back to me real quick. Um, yeah, I agree with her. Some instances, like me and her talk about this before, she's actually a client I just worked with in the past. She got a promotion, and we were talking about... And I'll get back to what she was talking about, but she was like, "Yo, while we work on the blue team in SOC, they think you're [00:35:00] supposed to know everything."

[00:35:01] And it's one of the reasons why I tell people why it's so hard to sometimes just jump into it because of all the domains. Working

[00:35:05] cybershortiee: in the SOC, working in the SOC is, it's- '

[00:35:08] HD: Cause all the domains you gotta know about ...

[00:35:10] cybershortiee: it's not, it's not always gonna be super entry-level for you. 'Cause you, you do need to Have some, some understanding of some basic things to be successful in the role

[00:35:22] HD: Yeah.

[00:35:23] But-

[00:35:24] cybershortiee: We got some comments

[00:35:26] HD: Yeah, we'll get to them. I, I just saw somebody talking about healthcare IT. Um, one of the things is, and this is one of the things I did in my talk with Popular Security, where we were talking about a course where some of the stuff can be automated with AI. However, the thing is you still need to understand if AI was right.

[00:35:43] 1000%. So there's going to be a human in the loop for a lot of this stuff because you can't go to your board of trustees when if your, an incident happened, "Oh, we believe the AI was right." They ain't gonna care about that. It's like, so nobody checked if this was doing what it's supposed to do or not. And so all the different jobs can come from, uh, [00:36:00] QA analysis of s- strictly just AI agents and make sure they're doing what they're supposed to do.

[00:36:04] And-

[00:36:05] cybershortiee: It's j- it's literally just summarizing it for you though. That's it. It's summarizing. You still have to go to each individual area, log, whatever it may be and, and make sure, look at that file or whatever it may be, email, whatever it may be, and you still need to make reason and sense of that. Um, so that triage piece the AI is doing, that's exactly what it is.

[00:36:26] It's just triaging it to tell you if it's high, medium, or low so that you know where to kind of place your focus, but you still have to be the decision maker, like you said. It doesn't go through and solve everything like people think it does.

[00:36:40] HD: Yeah, and, um, honestly, they're pretty much like moving people eventually like to tier two.

[00:36:46] In tier two you're mostly gonna handle stuff that was escalated.

[00:36:49] cybershortiee: Yeah

[00:36:49] HD: And so the AI probably escalates something and then that's when you gotta make sure it did what it was supposed to. 'Cause a lot of stuff, I don't know if these agents are gonna be- And,

[00:36:56] cybershortiee: and you have to give the agent feedback.

[00:36:58] HD: Yeah '

[00:36:58] cybershortiee: Cause they're not always right.

[00:36:59] [00:37:00] And sometimes it's gonna flag stuff that's not important to you, so the feedback piece is also a huge piece in training- Mm-hmm ... the AI on what is norm for your organization.

[00:37:09] HD: Right. And honestly number two is we don't know if, like you said, it's gonna do it right, and I also was thinking about, um, if it's dynamically doing something or statically doing something.

[00:37:24] So is it just taking stuff from the virus totals, the abuse IPs, the Whois?

[00:37:29] cybershortiee: It should be dynamic

[00:37:30] HD: And, and giving this at a high level? Which, 'cause, like, that's some of the automation there. 'Cause a lot of times you're going through, checking a couple of sites to verify this information. Because if it's not dynamic and it's only static, then it's still gonna be a human then.

[00:37:42] 'Cause, yeah, you could throw something in VirusTotal and it says it's not good. However, when you dynamically run whatever your, the file is or whatever, it's gonna be bad. Like, um, what was, what was I working on? It was- [00:38:00] I probably could have ran it through VirusTotal and never known, but, uh, I was investigating something with ClickFix.

[00:38:06] It was so funny. And it was, uh, it didn't just directly come up with, um, the ClickFix. Mm-hmm. It was like a captcha. But I'm looking at this all in the sandbox, guys, and I seen the ClickFix come up. I was saying it's so funny, as many times as we talked about ClickFix on the show.

[00:38:19] cybershortiee: Literally.

[00:38:19] HD: And then other stuff, like it reminded me of last week when we talked about the interview.

[00:38:26] cybershortiee: Mm-hmm.

[00:38:27] HD: The people, um, somebody got a phishing email when it's like, "Oh, download your invite." But when you download your invite, it's like Screen Connect, and it's all this other background stuff doing. And granted, I already knew that nobody should be seeing like a .zip in the... It was a, it was like a batch file or something like that.

[00:38:42] But out of curiosity I just ran it through some different sandboxes just to see what it was, 'cause I had already downloaded it in the sandbox. So that was just funny to me. But you're still gonna have to know that stuff.

[00:38:52] cybershortiee: Yeah.

[00:38:52] HD: You can't rely on it, 'cause you're gonna have to explain it.

[00:38:54] cybershortiee: And I think that's also, too, why a lot of the times, um, companies will try to [00:39:00] sell you their full suite and stack.

[00:39:01] Because everything that is, everything that a company makes is, should be able to work together to give you the best insights on what happened in this incident. So for example, if you're a Microsoft house, or you are a, um, AWS house, all of the connections and all of the tools that you're using to that regard, um, if you, if your environment is disconnected, what I'm trying to say is if your environment is disconnected, meaning you have a bunch of different vendors in your environment, all of those tools might not be able to communicate in the same way that, that they would if you were just using one vendor.

[00:39:37] So that also complicates you understanding what's going on as well, 'cause you have all these different siloed solutions.

[00:39:45] HD: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think lately I've been seeing now that that's not... It used to be like that, but more often times than not now people let you connect whatever tools so you can have all type of telemetry.

[00:39:56] Because if not, I mean, it's a smart way back in the day to say, "Oh yeah, you're [00:40:00] gonna have to get this tool and this tool-" Yeah ... "and this tool." 'Cause that's why a lot of times you'll see somebody used to have back in the day have like McAfee, uh, EPO, and they would have all the different McAfee tools because, uh, Nitro, uh, whatever they had with scanning stuff, all the different stuff they would have it 'cause they was blowing up to the government and, you know, it is what it is.

[00:40:17] But I just wanted to cover that 'cause I thought that was a, a pretty interesting one when it came to that. And then while we are here, there was a, there was a Reddit, and I might as well cover it 'cause I think it goes right into what we were talking about. Let me go here and look at my saved things. All right.

[00:40:42] And let me, let me-

[00:40:56] All right Uh, so this was a [00:41:00] Reddit, guys, and if y'all still with me, let me know. I'm not looking at the chat right now. "Entry level cyber roles, please help. I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge as I work in the healthcare field and this is my own research to help my partner in the new grad cybersecurity world.

[00:41:13] He's currently finishing his master's in cyber due this December with no experience in the field yet. I'm coming to understand that IT help desk is essentially a rite of passage, and he's currently working on a cert that's required prior to graduation. Unsure which one. Besides what I already know, which is he probably needs to start an IT help desk role, what is your experience, your path, your advice?

[00:41:32] Thank you in advance from two first-gen kids trying to figure it out together." And then they added a edit to this post. They said, "Edit. Let me be clear saying that this post is done purely for my own research to see if I can come across something that he has yet to. He's doing his own work and research, applying, studying, getting certs, looking into the market.

[00:41:48] He's not just sitting... He's not just a sitting duck thinking he'll land a job with no experience, which is why we're asking what routes you might have taken that have or haven't worked for, or what routes are best to take." [00:42:00] Um, this is interesting because I will say as a person, if you have a master's degree, you are going to be overqui- overqualified for help desk.

[00:42:10] cybershortiee: Oof. Imagine that.

[00:42:12] HD: You'll be

[00:42:12] cybershortiee: o- Imagine that. Imagine you don't have no experience and you got a master's degree and you overqualified

[00:42:18] HD: Because you know why? They know that this job is a placeholder. In time you get something you like, you'll be gone. So they might not, um- They don't

[00:42:26] cybershortiee: wanna fool with you ...

[00:42:27] HD: so you're better off doing one of two things, taking off one of your degrees or taking off both degrees and acting like you ain't got

[00:42:33] cybershortiee: nothing.

[00:42:33] Nathaniel.

[00:42:34] HD: And then once you get the job, input them in the system back in Workday. Like, just, just finesse the game if that's what you're gonna do. But truth be told, if you're in a master's program, you should... And this is why we've talked about so many times about what school you go to to get a master's at, because they should equip you with some great projects-

[00:42:53] cybershortiee: 1000%

[00:42:54] HD: whether they are group projects or solo projects that you could sell yourself to somebody to eventually at least [00:43:00] get interviews, at the bare minimum interviews.

[00:43:02] cybershortiee: And, and also, I don't think that people are thinking about those projects. So your capstone, whatever it is, that is a project. Put that on your resume.

[00:43:15] I don't... I think that a lot of the time people don't look at their homework assignments as projects and the different tools. I don't think people are doing a good job with keeping up with their labs. Because when, when you're in school and you're working, don't let you have a family and kids. Um- You school differently.

[00:43:36] You school to get the lab done. You're doing the lab to get it done. You might not be doing a lab to learn the lesson. You might be just doing the lab to get it done, so you might not be paying attention and missing on some key technologies that you can add that you've used on your resume. So also keep that in mind.

[00:43:53] As you're working on your, your lab work in school, make sure you're keeping a running list of different labs and tools and things [00:44:00] that you've done so that you can speak to it. 'Cause you'll get in an interview and they'll ask you, "Have you done this?" And you'll say no, but you did. You did it in a lab, you just didn't think about it when you were doing the lab 'cause you were trying to get it done.

[00:44:11] HD: Yeah, no. I mean, like I said, that's the difference between when you went to master's and I got a master's. I was already in the field, so some of the stuff don't apply to me, but I know that you had to go through the grind and say, "Hmm, I know I need to get me an internship. I know I need to do X, Y, Z." So granted, she didn't...

[00:44:28] We have to take based on whatever she said, that he may not have experience per se.

[00:44:34] tiktok: Mm-hmm.

[00:44:35] HD: So we don't know that, but if you ever came across this video, 'cause we read those words and it come from your, your, uh, YouTube homepage, he needs to get a internship as soon as possible. This there should be something he probably can do in the fall.

[00:44:49] He needs to do that. Um, or learn how to solve problems. There are a lot of small companies, mom and pop shops to where... Like, it's a guy, [00:45:00] um, I need to get him on the show, man, 'cause he was in the music business and he's in cybersecurity now, and I need to just mention him, say, "Yo, I need to get you on here 'cause you, you really be talking a lot of stuff, but you be doing it on the low."

[00:45:11] He was like, as simple as going into a small company and enabling DK- DKIM for the email protections.

[00:45:19] cybershortiee: DKIM and

[00:45:20] HD: SPF. Email security right there. You can say, like, you did about, um- DMARC,

[00:45:23] cybershortiee: DKIM, SPF ...

[00:45:25] HD: you can say you did about, um, 100 little small mom and pop shops. All you need to do is show that you got paid for something.

[00:45:30] Is it

[00:45:30] cybershortiee: SPF?

[00:45:31] HD: SPF, DKIM. I don't think

[00:45:33] cybershortiee: it's SPF. Mm-hmm. Ain't SPF sunscreen?

[00:45:35] HD: It's SPF.

[00:45:36] cybershortiee: It is? Sender framework.

[00:45:38] HD: Yeah, look. I'll show you. DKIM, SPF,

[00:45:44] cybershortiee: and DMARC. Send- What is SPF? Sender-

[00:45:47] HD: Policy Framework.

[00:45:48] cybershortiee: There we go. There we go.

[00:45:48] HD: And DKIM is domain keys identified mail. Identified

[00:45:51] cybershortiee: mail. And, uh, dom- DMARC something.

[00:45:56] HD: Is...

[00:45:57] cybershortiee: Domain [00:46:00]

[00:46:00] HD: Domain-based message authentication reporting and conformance.

[00:46:04] cybershortiee: Yeah.

[00:46:05] HD: Yeah. Got you for

[00:46:06] cybershortiee: no type of- Very, very niche things though ... acronym. Very niche things and very, so niche that you can get really good at it. And, and, and so niche you'd be surprised by how many companies don't have those configured correctly, which means that their emails can easily be spoofed.

[00:46:21] HD: Facts. It happens all the time. All the time. All right, so let's get into one of the questions. Uh, Jaquise Joseph is 34, coming from a tech sales support project coordinator background in machine manufacturing and renewables, and they wanna pivot into healthcare IT, as I want to work in a hospital but not be a nurse.

[00:46:42] Okay. That's kind of vague, so I think you need to figure out exactly what you wanna do in healthcare IT. If you wanna work at EHR or just do some regular, uh, IT stuff, I think that's where you gotta start there. I have a older live stream about EHR stuff. I'm planning to try to get some more healthcare IT [00:47:00] professionals on here to talk about that very thing, because it is kind of gate kept, but once you get in-

[00:47:05] cybershortiee: You in there

[00:47:06] HD: mm-hmm, like swimwear.

[00:47:07] cybershortiee: Isn't Epic one?

[00:47:08] HD: Mm-hmm.

[00:47:08] cybershortiee: Yeah, the system.

[00:47:09] HD: Epic, Cerna- Yeah ... and I don't know the other ones.

[00:47:11] cybershortiee: Epic has a fire office. Their headquarters is out.

[00:47:16] HD: It's in where? Wisconsin or something?

[00:47:17] cybershortiee: It's somewhere that you don't wanna be.

[00:47:19] HD: Exactly.

[00:47:20] cybershortiee: It's somewhere that you don't wanna be. Exactly. But the office is- So

[00:47:22] HD: they can't be too far

[00:47:23] cybershortiee: but the office is so, so, so, so, so, so nice. I seen it on TikTok. I've, I was following some people who do that. You can get really good at the different Epic systems. Yeah. I

[00:47:34] tiktok: beg your pardon?

[00:47:37] HD: Um, let's see. He said, um, "Amen on cybersecurity being a marketing term." And then they said, "Upward is the biggest hindrance to an organizational information security.

[00:47:48] I had an internship two years ago and they still haven't rotated credentials to the account I use."

[00:47:52] tiktok: Yikes

[00:47:57] cybershortiee: That's a, that's a double yikes

[00:47:58] HD: And he said, uh, "Labbing [00:48:00] and networking was the bread and butter for me. I finished my bachelor's in December and just landed my first role seven months later." So, um, hats off to you for that.

[00:48:07] Let me see what we got. We,

[00:48:15] we a little bit of round of applause, welcome Clapper. Um, so shout out to you. Um, you are next. Now, about what? I don't know.

[00:48:23] cybershortiee: All right. So meta and AI in your camera roll. So If you have a public Instagram account, this segment is for you specifically. Pull your phone out. So Meta launched a new AI image tool called Muse Image.

[00:48:42] It lets people generate images, edit photos, even make ads all inside the apps you already use. But here's the piece that lit the internet on fire. Muse Image lets users generate AI images using photos from public Instagram accounts. As long as your profile is [00:49:00] public, another user can tag your account and pull your images into an AI-generated creation.

[00:49:06] Only private accounts and accounts belonging to users under 18 are automatically excluded, and you don't get notified. So somebody could be using your face, your photos right now, and you would not know. Now, this is the difference between public and consented to. A lot of us made our accounts public so people could find our work, follow our businesses, see our content, right?

[00:49:29] We are consenting to being seen. We did not consent to being ingredients. And so these are two very different agreements, and the internet is really Trying to swap one for the other. Now, the concern here is not the hypothetical harassment, impersonation, non-consensual image, image editing. When you make it trivially easy to manipulate someone's likeness, people will manipulate someone's likeness.

[00:49:56] It's as simple as that. Um, so here's what to do right now. [00:50:00] One, go to your Instagram profile. Tap the three horizontal lines at the top in the right corner. Um, select Sharing and Reuse. Find the option that says Allow people to create with and reuse your content, toggle that off, and do it for both posts and reels, both of them.

[00:50:17] So it's gonna be two toggles, not one, and that's it. It should take you about 30 seconds to get that done. Send that to your friends, send that to your group chat, anybody who you know has a private... excuse me, a public account on Instagram. Um, but I do wanna kinda name that pattern out loud, because the thing that I am seeing, and I want you to walk away with, is that the default is that they opted us in.

[00:50:39] They didn't opt us out, and that's the problem. Cool, this is a thing that you can choose to do, but why are you opting people in? Why are people not automatically being opted out and notified of such, you know, occurrences? They didn't ask you. You have to actually go find that switch yourself and turn it off.

[00:50:55] And notice, um, how often that is the design in which they do [00:51:00] opt us in to a lot of things. Um, so yeah, insane.

[00:51:05] HD: Yeah, it was funny too, because you know they're-

[00:51:08] cybershortiee: And, and it's not specific to Meta.

[00:51:09] HD: Yeah, yeah, no.

[00:51:10] cybershortiee: Yeah, it's, it, this is a Meta scenario, but this is happening industry-wide. Google's AI training is, uh, is opt-out too, and, um, we're seeing that just across, you know, other solutions.

[00:51:23] HD: Yeah, no. Um, I think I wanna say that so many people believe that they can do what they want to with your content because you posted it on a social media platform.

[00:51:32] cybershortiee: Yep.

[00:51:32] HD: And that's not true. There are certain things that you shouldn't be doing to it, or the platform itself feel like they can do what they want to with your stuff because you agreed to it, but people didn't agree to it and they didn't tell you to.

[00:51:46] Like, they need to, the more importantly, when you sign up for a app, it need to be like if you got arrested, your Miranda Rights, your app rights.

[00:51:54] cybershortiee: No, for

[00:51:54] HD: real. Your app rights. Yeah. That's what we need. Yeah. We need your app rights, and we need to figure out exactly, [00:52:00] uh, what it's gonna be talking about when we, um, get on these apps.

[00:52:05] Let me see And, uh, you, do you wanna go ahead and just cover the EU and the scrolls? Since you, since that's kinda almost in line with what you're talking about.

[00:52:16] cybershortiee: Let's get it. All right, so the EU says the scroll is illegal. Um, so stay with me on Meta for one more because there's basically kinda two stories that are having a conversation with each other.

[00:52:29] So the European Commission just released preliminary findings that Facebook and Instagram's addictive design violates the Digital Services Act. Not might, not concerns about, the Commission's preliminary finding is this is a violation of the law. The Digital Services Act, which is also known as the DSA, is the EU's big platform accountability law.

[00:52:53] It requires large platforms to actually assess and mitigate the risk their design creates for users, and [00:53:00] large platform here means basically everybody you've heard of. The DSA has teeth, and we'll get to the number. Now, the investigation started in May 2024, focused on minors and addiction, and they zeroed in on the mechanics.

[00:53:12] So infinite scroll, autoplay, push notifications, hyper-personalized recommendation systems. And the Commission's findings were that Meta did not adequately assess the risk of its addictive design on the physical and mental wellbeing of users, including minors and vulnerable adults. And they went after the fixes, too.

[00:53:33] Meta pointed to teen accounts, parental controls, screen time caps. And the Commission basically said, "Look, we looked and time management tools can be dismissed too easily, and the parental controls only work if the parent has technical expertise or the time to learn them." They clocked them. Which, think about which parents that leaves out.

[00:53:56] Think about which communities that leaves out. Meta disagrees, [00:54:00] obviously, with the findings, and they're saying that the Commission didn't account for the significant steps it's taken since the investigation began. Um, they can contest this. They can review the evidence file. Obviously, this isn't over. But what the EU says the fix looks like, disable autoplay and infinite scroll by default, add screen time breaks, make the algorithm less optimized for engagement.

[00:54:22] They basically want to turn off the scroll. And the number, if the findings get confirmed, up to 6% of total an- annual global turnover, nonprofit turnover revenue.

[00:54:37] HD: I don't see them agreeing to all that. They're

[00:54:39] cybershortiee: not. '

[00:54:39] HD: Cause- They're not ... the whole-

[00:54:40] cybershortiee: They have done, they have, they have... I won't say they've done enough, but they have taken steps to try to, and it's, it's really hard to put all of that weight and pressure on them to-

[00:54:52] HD: Is it- It, it's- That's the question.

[00:54:53] Is it really on them to?

[00:54:55] cybershortiee: You know? I mean, yes.

[00:54:57] HD: So-

[00:54:58] cybershortiee: To an extent ...

[00:54:58] HD: so I got, like, [00:55:00] okay, now this is not a one-to-one, but you know who they don't do this to? Big pharma. Hey, they try to do something with the opioids, but y- your opioids are too addictive. You need to make them less addictive.

[00:55:14] cybershortiee: Mm-hmm.

[00:55:16] HD: Your app is too addictive, which it's doing what it's supposed to do.

[00:55:20] "Hey, I wanna keep you in the app, I want you to keep scrolling." And why is it just Meta that they're doing this to? Because you can stay on-

[00:55:26] cybershortiee: No, no, I'm with you 1,000%,

[00:55:28] HD: but like- You stay on TikTok forever.

[00:55:29] cybershortiee: What? Met- I was about to take it to TikTok, 'cause TikTok definitely be having me scrolling before I know it, it's been all day.

[00:55:36] HD: Yeah, so I really believe it's more so on the person. You should put it down. Now, the thing, here's the real issue- No,

[00:55:42] cybershortiee: I, I will say, though, I do think that we should, our phones, because we're on them a lot, I do think that there should be, like, you've been on your phone for too much, for too long, you need to take a break.

[00:55:53] And if you can't take a break right now, you're gonna take a break in 10 minutes. Just how your computer will do when it's time to shut down and, you know, it ha- it's a forced [00:56:00] situation. I do think that that-

[00:56:03] HD: That's what they got the wellness apps for, though ...

[00:56:04] cybershortiee: if we, if we f- but, but I don't think that's optional.

[00:56:09] HD: Yeah, but I, I don't know, 'cause this is like- '

[00:56:12] cybershortiee: Cause then we're just so free here. 'Cause then we gonna have the argument, "Oh, don't tell me what to do on my phone."

[00:56:16] HD: But is this more so for people or for kids?

[00:56:19] cybershortiee: Both.

[00:56:20] HD: Because-

[00:56:20] cybershortiee: No, kids are different. Kids are different. So if we're gonna, I- That

[00:56:24] HD: should be on the parents, '

[00:56:25] cybershortiee: cause it's like- I don't got the

[00:56:26] HD: answers.

[00:56:26] I don't got the answers ... I think that should be, like, on the parents a bit because-

[00:56:28] cybershortiee: It 1,000% should be on the parents ... when you give

[00:56:30] HD: it to them too long-

[00:56:31] cybershortiee: But the parents don't, a lot of parents don't understand the risk That is presented with their kids being glued to these technologies

[00:56:40] HD: At all. Speaking of, I need to still need to go see Toy Story Five.

[00:56:44] cybershortiee: I know. I seen, um, a little boy on TikTok who, who put his tablet up after he watched it.

[00:56:50] HD: Yeah. Um, that, that little one, Zelie, we definitely- ... give her stuff to her sparingly, 'cause she'll act like she is in a trance when she uses it.

[00:56:59] cybershortiee: I don't like when [00:57:00] kids do that. They, they, they literally can't hear you, think, breathe, eat.

[00:57:04] They can't, they w- they freeze, and it's... I hate it.

[00:57:08] HD: Yeah. I mean, it was a little bit like that with the game but not as bad. Like, I don't know.

[00:57:12] cybershortiee: Turn on some Miss

[00:57:12] HD: Rachel.

[00:57:13] cybershortiee: Um- Turn on

[00:57:14] HD: some Miss- Nah, all that stuff get people hooked. Um, let's see. We got a lot of, enough people in here, but not the, the, the likes ain't liking.

[00:57:25] tiktok: Hit the like button. Y'all gotta

[00:57:28] HD: hit the like button. Hang on, matter of fact,

[00:57:30] cybershortiee: let me, let me do- Hit the like button ...

[00:57:33] HD: matter of fact, let me, let me, let me go in here.

[00:57:35] tiktok: Broad man, what's up, man? Brum man need love too

[00:57:45] Ah.

[00:57:49] One love. One love. Let's-

[00:57:52] HD: Listen, y'all gotta hit the like button. Um, did you do one for us with the ID, the [00:58:00] California, like, what is it, like six million IDs? Did you see that

[00:58:03] cybershortiee: one? I think so. I think it's at the bottom.

[00:58:05] HD: Okay. 'Cause I thought that was, like, interesting, 'cause we just talked about the Texas vendor with the three million IDs, and now we got six million.

[00:58:10] cybershortiee: Six million is insane.

[00:58:11] HD: In California. Like, I don't know.

[00:58:12] cybershortiee: 6.99 million. It's the, uh... It's on here.

[00:58:17] HD: Did you wanna do it?

[00:58:18] cybershortiee: Yeah. All right, so insurance provider Assurance America confirmed a breach hitting 6.99 million people. So names, contact info, and driver license numbers. This is the largest known spiel of American driver's license data this year.

[00:58:34] The timeline is the part that stings in this scenario. They discovered hackers in their systems March 17th. Investigation concluded June 15th, notification letters going out July 10th. Let's do the math. So how did it start? The notice says hackers targeted one of the company's employees, and the company then disabled compromised...

[00:58:55] What? The notice says hackers targeted one of the company's [00:59:00] employees, and the company then disabled compromised credentials, so stolen employee credentials again. A driver's license number is an identity anchor. It is not like a credit card that you can cancel. You can't rotate your license number. It's used to open accounts, verify identity, commit fraud in your name, and it follows you, obviously, for years.

[00:59:21] Now, Texas, we talked about this last week, lost three million licenses and passports in June. There have been leaks from a hotel check-in system, a money transfer app, a prison payphone provider, a UK visa service, all while governments push age verification laws that require more people to upload more ID documents to more websites.

[00:59:43] More ID collection, same security, that's the trend that we're seeing here. Um, if you're affected, freeze your credit. We've talked about that before. Um, but I think that the numbers are just... I... Why, why are we not mad [01:00:00] enough?

[01:00:01] HD: What can you do?

[01:00:02] cybershortiee: Nothing.

[01:00:04] HD: I think that you've talked about this before, but anybody that's been to database class, you got a primary ID, and then you got a child ID.

[01:00:11] We need to move from our-

[01:00:13] cybershortiee: Primary ...

[01:00:14] HD: we need to have, like-

[01:00:15] cybershortiee: A

[01:00:15] HD: secondary child ... so, so, so, in a sense, socials and driver's licenses are kind of like primaries. They're own primary IDs. Like they say with credit cards, we need child IDs that's linked to us that we can always switch that. Once it's switched, you can't use it, the information.

[01:00:30] cybershortiee: Mm-hmm.

[01:00:30] HD: That's what we need. Like, if we so digital, we need to go ahead. Like, uh, what are the other... And I didn't look this up. We need

[01:00:36] cybershortiee: to see what the EU's doing. We need to just follow.

[01:00:38] HD: What is China and them doing, like with stuff like this? Do, do they have... Like, how do they protect identities?

[01:00:43] cybershortiee: Mm-hmm.

[01:00:43] HD: Like, you know, but while you're...

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[01:01:40] Now back to the video. Um, Henry, this-- I guess he was talking about the iPad stuff or Meta when he said the parents are addicted to it. His name was Henry McCants, and I wonder if he's related to Rashad McCants. I know you don't know who that is, but, uh, Rashad McCants is, uh, somebody. So [01:02:00] Let's have some fun with...

[01:02:06] Before we get in some other stuff, let's do this. Where is the, the video? Well, not the, the link. It's the who's getting paid one

[01:02:17] cybershortiee: Let's have some fun

[01:02:19] HD: I thought I just saw that one. Where is it? Or what's the name of it?

[01:02:27] Oh, there we go

[01:02:32] I thought about this fun topic, um

[01:02:38] Because we are trying to see who's getting paid in, in 2026 and what can you look into. This is for the people who may be thinking about pivoting or just thinking about doing something else, but let's talk about it. Synetic's top 15 highest paying tech jobs in the US. This came from March 2026. This is your career segment, and this is where you build the most trust.

[01:02:58] Give the numbers, then [01:03:00] give the truth. So let's talk about money because y'all always ask, and I'd rather give you the real answer than the comfortable one. There's a list of the highest paying tech jobs in the US right now, and I'm gonna give you the numbers, and then I'm gonna tell you what the list doesn't say.

[01:03:15] Because if I just read a list, I wasted your time. So the top of the list is, uh, CTO, and I think this is actually kind of low.

[01:03:23] cybershortiee: I was gonna say that too.

[01:03:24] HD: Yeah, it's, it's, it's, uh, $180,000 to $250,000. Plus then you have AI engineers, $160,000 to $210,000. Machine learning engineer, $155,000 to $200,000. I guess this is the averages or whatever.

[01:03:41] Cloud architect, $150,000 to $195,000. IT director, $150,000 to $200,000. Software engineering manager, and I don't know if this is all base or what. It doesn't tell me. Software engineering manager, this is definitely low, $150,000 to [01:04:00] $190,000. Solutions architect, 145,000 to 180,000. Security engineers going 145 to 185,000.

[01:04:10] You got a data scientist, 140,000 to 180K.

[01:04:13] cybershortiee: That's super low.

[01:04:14] HD: I know. I think the... I don't know where they got these numbers from. Um, SRE, site reli- site reliability engineers, 140,000 through 180,000. Blockchain engineer, 140,000 through 175. DevOps is 135 through 170, and the manage- product manager is 130 through 170.

[01:04:32] UI/UX is 125 to 165, and the full stack developer, this is definitely low, 120 to 155. Okay. Now, here's what I need you to understand about this list like this, and I want you to hear the love in this. Look what's actually at the top, and we just stated that we believe the CTO and IT director, in all those roles we believe that they're lower, 'cause that thing can be way higher depending on- It

[01:04:55] cybershortiee: can definitely be way higher

[01:04:56] HD: where you're working at.

[01:04:57] cybershortiee: Yeah.

[01:04:57] HD: Uh, the money isn't the one in the tool. The money is [01:05:00] in deciding which tool leading the people who use it, and explain the business why it matters. Communication is a technical skill. True. I, honestly I think a lot of stuff is dependent on when you got into the job market.

[01:05:12] That's what I feel. Yeah,

[01:05:12] cybershortiee: no for real. That's facts.

[01:05:14] HD: It's only a certain amount of people that I work with that actually know their stuff versus people who just keep on getting another high level role because they did on previous, but they probably aren't good at it. Mm-hmm. That's just my opinion. Uh, so nobody walks into $185,000 cybersecurity engineer role from a bootcamp on Tuesday.

[01:05:31] These numbers represent people with experience, and the list quietly assumes that. Don't let a salary range make you feel behind. You're not behind, you're early. The list was written by a staffing agency, which is fine. The data's directionally useful, but understand the incentive. The article ends by telling you to work with a staffing agency.

[01:05:48] Always know who's holding the microphone. That's not a criticism, that's media literacy, and a skill I want every one of you to have. All right, so this is the one I really want you to hear The whole [01:06:00] episode, we just did a career map. AI, cloud, cybersecurity, data. Those are the four drivers this list names of why salaries are climbing.

[01:06:06] And every single story today lived in one of those four buckets. Incident response, insider threat, privacy engineering, AI governance, hardware security. The news isn't separate from your career. The news is your career roadmap.

[01:06:17] cybershortiee: Clock it.

[01:06:17] HD: You just have to learn to read it that way. That's why we do this. And one more thing, The list gets right that people sleep on.

[01:06:25] It says these jobs are no longer limited to Silicon Valley, finance, healthcare, legal tech, government. The bank in your city needs a security engineer. The hospital needs one. The school district needs one. Stop waiting for a FAANG offer to consider yourself in tech. I like that. Hang on

[01:06:47] cybershortiee: Bro.

[01:06:49] HD: They gotta wake it up. Wake it up. Um-

[01:06:52] cybershortiee: What is wrong with you? I

[01:06:54] HD: have to get them to wake it up, man. For real, for real. Um...

[01:06:58] cybershortiee: No, um, I agree [01:07:00] with you, uh, with this breakdown, and I also thinks that, I think that it also highlights, um, what may be hot and popping. Um, I know for sure, I know a lot of data scientists, and they making well over 300,000.

[01:07:15] HD: Yeah.

[01:07:15] cybershortiee: Yeah.

[01:07:15] HD: And then we get into the AI data, you know? Shout out to Kiara.

[01:07:18] cybershortiee: Shout out to Kiara.

[01:07:20] HD: Shout out to our data privacy people, Aaron Relford. I probably know somebody do almost all these different type of roles.

[01:07:27] cybershortiee: Yeah.

[01:07:28] HD: So that was me. I don't think that was you. Um, but no, shout out, shout out to them. But let's see.

[01:07:37] We want to try to have a little fun and we-

[01:07:42] cybershortiee: Just a little bit ...

[01:07:44] HD: we like to have fun. Let's see. Actually, this was interesting. We talked about money, we talked about getting paid. Let's talk about, I think this lady's a recruiter. I reacted to her a couple of times on the show, and she's talking about somebody who got their job offer rescinded.

[01:07:56] cybershortiee: Ooh.

[01:07:58] tiktok: Didn't I tell y'all that- Uh-oh ... nothing is [01:08:00] set in stone until you get an offer letter and you start your first day of work? Story time. I was offered a job two weeks ago. I've been waiting for the offer letter for two weeks, mainly because I was told that it would be a contract position, but then they decided that, "You know what?

[01:08:19] Let's make this a permanent position," which takes a little bit more time getting approvals. I said, "Fine. I've got time. I've got nothing but time." I get an email today asking if I can meet in an hour. Fine. I get dressed up. I do my hair. I take my bonnet off. Let's go. Let's, let's do this. The meeting is titled Introduction, so I'm like, "Okay, cool."

[01:08:39] I met with the director at first and now I'm meeting with the manager. So manager gets on, s- all smiles. I'm thinking like, "

[01:08:48] cybershortiee: Hey, I'm just... I'm meeting someone I'm

[01:08:50] tiktok: working with, you know, closely, so this is great." I have nothing prepared. Nothing. No questions, no nothing. I'm just, you, you know, just was gonna keep it casual.

[01:08:59] [01:09:00] I realized five minutes into this meeting that it's an interview. I'm being interviewed. And you know why? They gave my position to someone else internally. Yeah, somebody internally said, "I want that job," and they gave it to them, so now they were interviewing me for another position. So now I'm confused.

[01:09:20] They're asking me a bunch of questions, and I'm just like, "Okay, cool. Yeah, all right." I answer all the questions. They're asking me, "Do you have any questions?" "Nope." Wasn't even prepared for, for questions, but I, I, I pulled some out of my ass just to, to- ... you know, further the conversation, um, because I saw what was happening, and I didn't wanna get off the call until I, you know, was 100% sure and, you know, if I needed to pivot into this role for a little bit, sure, whatever.

[01:09:47] So the hiring manager, the way he ends the call is he said, "All right. Cool. I will level set with the director, and then we should have a decision by next week." Decision? I was already offered the job. I'm [01:10:00] waiting for the offer letter. I thought you were calling with the details, calling about benefits, calling about start date, calling about background check.

[01:10:06] I didn't know I would still be interviewed and considered. He's like, "Oh, yeah, you know, we're still interviewing other candidates and so, um, you know, I should have an answer by next week." What? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? So yeah, so I get off that call, call the recruiter immediately, and she's confused.

[01:10:25] She doesn't know what's going on. She said, "This is not what was discussed. I will get back to you ASAP." Moral of the story, that is not your job until offer letter signed, first day completed. All right?

[01:10:42] cybershortiee: I'm with her on the first day completed, 'cause you could still sign an offer letter and it-

[01:10:47] HD: Man, not only that.

[01:10:48] Shoot, first 90 days.

[01:10:50] cybershortiee: That part.

[01:10:51] HD: Like, they can- '

[01:10:52] cybershortiee: Cause, 'cause, 'cause people get hired for roles and then a company will decide, "You know what? We don't even need that role anymore."

[01:10:58] HD: Mm-hmm. You'll be there and be [01:11:00] like, "Hold on, what's happening?" They realized they didn't either scope the role correctly or you're just not performing to their standards, especially when you're on a contract.

[01:11:08] cybershortiee: Yep.

[01:11:08] HD: They'll hit you up, "Hey, uh, sorry man, we gotta end your contract." You could be in the middle of eating a sandwich and you'd be like, "Hold on, why?" "Oh, because you ain't catching on fast enough," or this or that, and it kinda goes back to when I... Whatever episode we was talking about, or maybe I did it by myself when I was saying, like, once you get certain level of roles, you don't get a lot of training Yeah, so it can go into that.

[01:11:31] But yeah, I tell people even if you get a offer, keep interviewing. Even if you get a start date, keep interviewing. It ain't over till you get that equipment and work a couple of days.

[01:11:41] cybershortiee: Nah, for real. And even- And it's, and it's so sad that that's gotta be what it is. It's so... If you're somebody who has anxiety and, and you struggling, you know what I mean?

[01:11:51] HD: Mm-hmm.

[01:11:52] cybershortiee: With your mental health and that... It's, it's, it's, it's a shame you can't get an offer and just know, "I'm gonna start," and you can, you [01:12:00] can't, you can't even celebrate, you know? Yeah. You can't even be happy. Yeah. You've been out of work for eight months. You just got a, you just got an opportunity. You can't even rejoice in the moment that it finally landed 'cause your, your nerves are so bad.

[01:12:14] "Am I really gonna start? Oh my God."

[01:12:15] HD: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I have, I felt like that before and I'm like, "Okay, I guess, I guess it's real." They ain't gonna call back the next day and be like, "Um, you know what? We went with somebody else." I do hate when they try to do that little internal thing. Like, at least be transparent.

[01:12:29] I wouldn't even wanna work for them though, 'cause, 'cause why would you at least not tell me, "Hey, they offered somebody internally the role, but they got another role open. Are you interested in interviewing?"

[01:12:37] cybershortiee: And, and it, it makes the company look really sloppy.

[01:12:42] HD: Exactly. Exactly. Um, let's actually have some more fun.

[01:12:48] This is something I came across. It's like two videos. It seem like it might could be a Reddit, but let, let's let her eat.

[01:12:53] cybershortiee: Storytime on how my coworker got fired, and before she left she exposed the whole [01:13:00] office. I think- Never saw- So this was the messiest day I ever worked, y'all. So my coworker had ended up getting called in the office or whatever, so she was in the office arguing with management.

[01:13:09] How I knew it was gonna be messy because she been arguing with them all week long. So about 20 minutes later she walk out with a box of stuff, so at this point everybody knew she got fired. She coulda just walked straight off the job, but instead she turned around and said, "Since everybody wanna play with my job, let's tell the truth."

[01:13:26] So everybody heart beating, everybody looking around like- "Oh, here we go." So at this point my manager jumped up and was like, "Don't do this." So I turned around and looked, was like, "Oh, too late." So at this time she end up pulling out a folder, y'all. I'm like, "Okay, here we go with this folder shit." So she opened up this folder and she looked at one manager and then she looked at the other manager and go and say, "So which one of y'all want me to expose y'all first?"

[01:13:50] They all looked shocked, looked like they about to cry. She says, "Let's start with who been stealing overtime." Y'all, coming for part two. [01:14:00] Coming for part two is sending me.

[01:14:02] HD: Hey Hello. She definitely-

[01:14:07] cybershortiee: We need part two, HD ...

[01:14:08] HD: we got part two.

[01:14:09] cybershortiee: Storytime

[01:14:10] HD: on- Hold on. It's not that one. I'm trying to remove that from the stage, and remove from studio.

[01:14:14] And we got part two. You know I like to leave the part two on here. Here we go

[01:14:20] cybershortiee: But when she had opened up that folder, I thought she was bluffing, but I was dead ass wrong. This girl pulled out screenshots, printed emails, time sheets, and pictures. Yeah, she was on one. So she looked at the manager and was like, "Yeah, you fired the wrong person."

[01:14:41] So the manager got up and got closer, and he was trying to snatch the folder out her hand. She snatched it back and she was like, "Don't touch my shit." Then she decided to point at the supervisor and say, "So tell everybody how your favorite employee been clocking in at home- ... while everybody been working these double [01:15:00] shifts."

[01:15:00] His face dropped on the floor. Then she looked back at the manager and said, "Or should I tell everybody how your wife keep calling the front desk looking for you?" So at this point everybody's staring because they like literally furious, like what the fuck is really about to go on? Half these people don't even want her to speak up because she know too much.

[01:15:20] Before he can even answer, his phone start ringing. When he looked at his phone, guess who it was? The wife. His wife. Everybody lost they shit. So everybody pretending like they had to go to the bathroom or something. They wanna act like they ain't paying attention to what's really going on. So a lady had ended up walking in the front door holding flowers, saying that she coming to surprise her husband for their anniversary.

[01:15:42] Call me for part three.

[01:15:45] HD: What's

[01:15:45] tiktok: wrong, Jay? When I came down- Ugh.

[01:15:51] HD: That's how he was when she came through. I don't think she had part three on there

[01:15:54] cybershortiee: yet. She probably didn't.

[01:15:55] HD: Um, if y'all want part three, let me know. Maybe I'll go find it, but I just thought that was pretty [01:16:00] funny. I wanted to get... Feel like it's gonna rain.

[01:16:02] cybershortiee: It look like it's finna throw down.

[01:16:04] HD: Um, but let's see.

[01:16:10] Get your, give them your smart glasses.

[01:16:13] cybershortiee: Let's get it, shorty. Okay. So y'all know I love my Meta glasses. They have gotten a lot of, uh, bad rap, I would say, over the, uh, the last few months. Is it on here?

[01:16:30] HD: Yeah, it's

[01:16:31] cybershortiee: on there. Okay, let me find it. Um, I don't- Here

[01:16:35] HD: we go. I found it. It's section-

[01:16:37] cybershortiee: Uh oh ... segment five.

[01:16:37] The smart glasses. All right. So the smart glasses that refuse to record you Even Realities just dropped the G2 smart glasses, and they made a choice that I think is genuinely interesting. No camera, no speakers on purpose. While Meta, Snap, and everybody [01:17:00] else is racing to put a camera on your face, this company said, "Nah, we're a productivity device."

[01:17:05] The people around you shouldn't have to wonder if they're being filmed, and that's the pitch. And honestly, that's going to work well with a lot of folks who take that stance. Now, what you get instead is a monochrome heads-up display, text in green, kind of a neon sign look that you can actually see in any lighting.

[01:17:24] It's 1,200 nits, six- 60 hertz refresh, 75% bigger display than the last version, four microphones, 35 grams, magnesium alloy frame, titanium templates, two-day battery in a case that recharges them seven times over. The features: live translation, turn-by-turn navigation on the display, a teleprompter, to-do list, a thing called Conversate, which listens to a meeting and pops up little explainer bubbles for concepts as they come up.

[01:17:53] The reviewer said during an energy briefing, it popped a bubble for green hydrogen. He tapped it and got a definition right in [01:18:00] his field of view. That's actually kind of amazing and a real time education layer over your life. Now, the review is honest about the rough edges. The AI assistant misheard commands outside despite four mics.

[01:18:13] Navigation doesn't work with Google or Apple Maps, you have to use their app, and the addresses were often wrong. The companion ring costs $249 and the reviewer said skip it, the glasses are $599. The company just hit a $1 billion valuation, so s- obviously somebody does believe in the camera-free bet. But I think every piece of face-worn tech is a consent negotiation with everyone in the room.

[01:18:39] You're not the only person affected by what you put on your head. When I'm talking to you and you're wearing a camera, I'm now in your data pipeline, and some folks have never agreed to that. Um, so Even Realities whole bet is that there's a market for tech that respects the perk- the person you're talking to, not just the person wearing it.

[01:18:57] It's the same argument that we made about Instagram. [01:19:00] Consent isn't just about you, it's about everyone in frame. And I really hate that the Meta glasses got that bad rep of, um, 'cause there was a video of a guy who had jailbroken them and, um, he was walking up to people. What is the word that he was doing?

[01:19:17] He was- Uh ...

[01:19:18] HD: pretty much he was, uh-

[01:19:19] cybershortiee: It's not social engineering. He was- No, no, no ... uh, doxing. He was doxing people. He was doxing people in person, and he would, like, walk up to somebody and whatever he did with the technology, it was pulling them up on different parts. Wasn't that the people from

[01:19:29] HD: Harvard that did that plugin or something like that?

[01:19:31] I

[01:19:31] cybershortiee: think

[01:19:31] HD: so,

[01:19:31] cybershortiee: yeah, yeah. And so I, I hate that it has that bad rep. I think because the, the, the truth of the matter is that these are still glasses, so some people do have their prescription in these glasses and I, I think there was a lady who ha- went to get a, a intimate wax and the waxer had on the Meta glasses and she was uncomfortable.

[01:19:52] And so it's just stuff like that, like-

[01:19:55] HD: That's why I think these would be better for that ...

[01:19:57] cybershortiee: it's a real fine line between it. [01:20:00]

[01:20:00] HD: Yeah.

[01:20:02] cybershortiee: I don't know, that seem cool though. But, but, but Meta did just, Meta did just, um, release an update where if you tamper- Yeah ... I think with the light or the camera, something with the light that has to do with the camera because when you're recording on the Meta glasses, there should be a light on the side that you can see someone's recording.

[01:20:15] But they just, um, released an update that I guess will- Can't you

[01:20:19] HD: just put tape over it?

[01:20:20] cybershortiee: There are, I s- I did see on TikTok that there were some stickers that you could put over it, but I don't know if that, if you alter it, I don't know if it's, I don't know. But- Yeah ... they, they released the update to basically disable the glasses if you are trying to alter the camera.

[01:20:35] HD: Yeah.

[01:20:36] cybershortiee: Or, or cover it or something like that.

[01:20:38] HD: Nah. But, um, I don't know, that, that's very interesting. I like that. I mean, granted it's not the best concept yet, but a company that's valued at a billion could be something that you could probably get in on and, and try to invest in or something, make some money with, for sure.

[01:20:53] Mm-hmm. Uh, um, let me see. You covered... What didn't we cover? [01:21:00]

[01:21:00] cybershortiee: Uh, there's one at the bottom

[01:21:01] HD: Oh, let's have fun. Um, Disney Plus for free? I got it.

[01:21:07] cybershortiee: Let's talk about it. You're

[01:21:08] HD: reading a lot

[01:21:19] And I thought it was pretty cool 'cause everybody wants to cut cables, but now people are thinking about going back to just doing piracy because you spending more- ... with streaming apps-

[01:21:29] cybershortiee: Piracy is offending me.

[01:21:32] HD: You are, though. You

[01:21:33] cybershortiee: s- No, you right, you right.

[01:21:34] HD: You spending more with all these different streaming apps versus just-

[01:21:38] cybershortiee: No, no

[01:21:38] HD: downloading yourself.

[01:21:39] cybershortiee: Literally. Literally.

[01:21:40] HD: And then, you know, now they got the-

[01:21:41] cybershortiee: I'm spread across all the apps ...

[01:21:43] HD: they got the NA password management. Hey, this ain't where you normally watch it at. You gonna have to put this code in or-

[01:21:48] cybershortiee: And they doing too much. You getting your money, why you tripping? '

[01:21:51] HD: Cause they not getting their money.

[01:21:52] People just signing up and then not sign u- they leaving the, the app entirely. Per Business Insider, Disney is reportedly weighing a free tier Disney Plus. [01:22:00] The chief product and technology officer Adam Smith hinted at it in a town hall. No specifics on timing or scope. It's a play against young people going to YouTube for free.

[01:22:08] Netflix has no free tier, Prime Video requires Prime, Apple lets you watch select premieres, Disney would be first. Context: Disney launched vertical videos this year, short form TikTok style. It's easy to imagine that living on a free tier, tier. And I think Prime got that now too in, uh, in the app. Free in streaming means ad supported, and ad supported means data supported.

[01:22:30] The price of a free tier is your viewing behavior, your device graph, your attention packaged and sold. And notice, where we started today, the EU called engagement optimized design a legal violation. Now, here's a free tier optimized for engagement aimed at young people. Those two stories are shaking hands and nobody's watching.

[01:22:48] Nothing wrong with the free tier, just know what free costs. And honestly, they just trying to, uh, get in on the market that Tubi got.

[01:22:55] cybershortiee: Tubi getting down. Tubi.

[01:22:56] HD: Facts. When they said something about the, uh, [01:23:00] Your Stuff package, I thought about Signed, Sealed, Delivered. I'm on.

[01:23:06] cybershortiee: Signed, sealed, delivered.

[01:23:07] HD: Let me see.

[01:23:10] I'm trying to see, did we... There's something that we didn't cover. Oh. The

[01:23:17] cybershortiee: one that was protected. The BBB?

[01:23:19] HD: I, I took that one off. Um, oh, the Cash App joint. I don't know if you put that on there.

[01:23:27] cybershortiee: Cash App.

[01:23:28] HD: Why, why with that Nina?

[01:23:30] cybershortiee: Know what I'm... Nina. Know I'm smoking on kisha

[01:23:36] HD: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, nice doctor. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm.

[01:23:40] Prescription shouldn't, prescription shouldn't be a option. I disagree. I think it should be a option, especially with the Meta Ray-Bans. They- Free Bans.

[01:23:47] cybershortiee: They're glasses. Why wouldn't prescription be an option?

[01:23:50] HD: Ooh, we got, um- We got a voicemail

[01:23:56] cybershortiee: Let's hear it

[01:23:57] HD: Um, let's see. You [01:24:00] should be able to hear this. Let me see if I got it turned up all the way.

[01:24:03] All right. Let me, let me do this real quick

[01:24:09] cybershortiee: You know we spoken on Keisha. All right. You can tell

[01:24:13] HD: you this- Get to the

[01:24:14] cybershortiee: live chat ...

[01:24:15] HD: uh, here we go. You ready?

[01:24:18] cybershortiee: Mm-hmm.

[01:24:18] HD: All right, you should be able to hear this Mm-hmm.

[01:24:33] Hang on. I think we can hear, but I don't know if they can hear, 'cause I'm not seeing... Let me do something. I don't see the people. Okay. Hey, tell me real quick in the chat if y'all can hear. I'm trying to make sure that it's not just, um, coming through for us Oh, that's pretty smart, um, workaround. He said face scrambling-

[01:24:54] cybershortiee: I like that idea, Mac

[01:24:55] HD: yeah, face scrambling should be enabled by default when recording. That's smart. But hey, I'm [01:25:00] gonna replay this, uh, voicemail. I want y'all to let me know if y'all can hear it. If not, I will try to just play it from the phone. Um, so let's go

[01:25:29] Out of the game

[01:25:35] I don't think they could hear it. The only way... Well, you in the background. I know what I'm gonna do.

[01:25:40] cybershortiee: What? Let

[01:25:42] HD: me see if they got a thing that lets us play audio. Bear with me, y'all. Video fail. Image fail. Okay, no 'Cause yeah, I don't think they could hear it. Yeah, they, they couldn't hear it. That's what I thought[01:26:00]

[01:26:10] All right. So I think that's in my download, so

[01:26:17] I don't wanna open it like that. It's open in quick time. Give me a quick second, y'all, and I got y'all

[01:26:27] cybershortiee: While you working on that

[01:26:29] HD: No, I got it now. I just gotta get to how I can, um, share it on the screen.

[01:26:34] cybershortiee: It do look rough out here. I'm scared

[01:26:40] HD: Here we go. All right, they should be able to hear this. Also share system audio. There we go

[01:26:50] tiktok: So I'm currently in my master's pro-

[01:26:54] HD: Hang on. I don't think it... It's not sharing[01:27:00]

[01:27:05] Where is this share?

[01:27:12] This is really killing me because it is, it's here, but it's not telling me. So let me do this workaround real quick

[01:27:37] cybershortiee: Are you caught up on the show? Mm-hmm.

[01:27:40] HD: Here we go

[01:27:49] It's playing, but I gotta change the output[01:28:00]

[01:28:01] cybershortiee: You made us little

[01:28:06] HD: Dude is talking. It just seems...

[01:28:11] cybershortiee: Whatever you just did is echoing.

[01:28:13] HD: Yeah, I know it's echoing. He, he's playing, but it's, uh

[01:28:21] Wait a sec. Let me put it on back on window

[01:28:29] They like, "Man, what's going on?"

[01:28:34] Quick time, quick time. Okay, there we go. Now let's try

[01:28:40] tiktok: Around through Capella that's focus-focusing on networking and cloud, and it does come with, uh, having to do a project and finish with two, like, capstone project courses. I'm currently working on a

[01:28:56] net operations AI type of command center [01:29:00] that kinda combines all the tools in one, but also have the ability to plug in a LL-LLM agent and kinda go through the process of controlling the command center. Which the command center, it controls, like, it has guardrails before it makes any type of automation changes or even just troubleshooting based off network statuses.

[01:29:24] That's one of the projects I'm going, uh, full in with, with, uh, all my capstone classes. It involves several tools. My thing is I'm right now currently on a contract with Apex Systems for a SIEM team, which is a controlling administrator. I was wondering, uh, once my contract is up in April, I graduate like a month before, if not extended or[01:30:00]

[01:30:31] cybershortiee: Okay, so

[01:30:32] HD: Did you hear what he said?

[01:30:33] cybershortiee: I did.

[01:30:34] HD: Okay. I'm gonna let you... I'm gonna put it on you, 'cause I gotta go back through and read what he said.

[01:30:37] cybershortiee: Okay. So I don't think that this current economy is an economy where you should deny or reject anything if you don't have anything lined up. Now, if you reject them and you don't have anything lined up, where does that leave you?

[01:30:54] I would say, um, use them for as much as you can while you're there. Um, and if [01:31:00] you still feel like that's a low offer and you feel like you deserve more, then continue to pursue that. But right now folks are just having a f- a hard time landing roles. I don't subscribe to the ministry of quit now, figure it out later in this economy.

[01:31:16] Um, so that's my take on it. I do think if you think you're worth more, your skillset aligns better with more pay and/or a different role, then you should absolutely, positively go after that. But, um, keep something on the back burner, you know, in the meantime so that you still have that income, the insurance, the benefits, the things that you need to kinda keep you afloat.

[01:31:38] That's my take on it. Um, yeah.

[01:31:41] HD: Okay. So I read the end part is I think if he don't have nothing lined up, I don't think he should quit. But, uh, he does seem overqualified for the role. And also he was saying how now it seem like it's towards the end where they not answering him and all this other stuff, so it's a possibility they maybe don't even extend it.

[01:31:58] But where he's working on the master's program [01:32:00] seems really good. Mm-hmm. And I believe he said how much he was making, so he's not making as much as he wanna make anyway. I would start right now leveraging what you do now, leveraging those, that project you went all the way in with the AI guardrails, and start looking at some maybe entry-level AI roles or whatever.

[01:32:15] Mm-hmm. Me personally, I, I mean, I think you're already getting the experience, so why not? Why not go all in?

[01:32:23] cybershortiee: Believe in yourself.

[01:32:27] HD: So that's how I feel about that one, young sir.

[01:32:31] cybershortiee: Yeah. And thanks for being one to leave a voicemail.

[01:32:34] HD: Oh, you're welcome, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, I put it everywhere and people act like they scared to, to talk.

[01:32:39] I even gave 'em- But

[01:32:39] cybershortiee: they, but they be DM- DM-ing us. I'll be like-

[01:32:42] HD: Right ...

[01:32:42] cybershortiee: I'll be like, "Leave it here. Leave... Put, put, put that question in the, in the voicemail."

[01:32:46] HD: And also guys, if you don't want to... nobody hear how you talk, our email for our group mes- uh, group mailbox is in the description. You can send us something there anytime and we can check it out as well.

[01:32:58] cybershortiee: Yep.

[01:32:59] HD: Especially if you want [01:33:00] to partner on something. Um, now I think we covered all the cool stuff. I think we got a couple of more fun things to actually look at, so give me a second.

[01:33:09] cybershortiee: We talked about something, and I'm totally blanking on what it was.

[01:33:12] HD: Was it before we-

[01:33:13] cybershortiee: It was before we started recording, but I don't remember what the freak it was It was good too

[01:33:22] HD: What was it about?

[01:33:23] You really can't remember? '

[01:33:24] cybershortiee: Cause we, you was like, "That would be a good something to talk about." Oh, you talking

[01:33:27] HD: about the AI dead celebrities?

[01:33:28] cybershortiee: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:33:29] HD: Kendrick, we need you. Yeah. The West Coast savior They're like, "What this boy talking about?"

[01:33:35] cybershortiee: Oh, he actually just said thanks.

[01:33:36] HD: Yeah, I knew what I was saying.

[01:33:37] Oh,

[01:33:37] cybershortiee: cool.

[01:33:38] HD: Now this was another one saying people don't trust HR.

[01:33:41] tiktok: So I keep, keep getting comments like this, and it's like, it's par for the course, right? People don't know

[01:33:49] HD: how to go see them. People don't

[01:33:49] tiktok: trust HR. But I get it enough- No more tripping ... and I know that a lot of my colleagues in HR get it enough

[01:33:54] HD: That's quite odd. And it's turned all the way up on her thing. Let me double-check something. [01:34:00]

[01:34:00] cybershortiee: Is it still hooked up to the voicemail thing? 'Cause that's in the middle of the screen.

[01:34:05] HD: No, I took that down. Yeah, I took both of them off Well, this is odd. It should be-

[01:34:13] tiktok: Enough that I feel like it's important to let y'all know what we actually do It's not muted or nothing?

[01:34:18] because I think that y'all don't. Y'all don't really understand HR's role in an organization. So I-

[01:34:23] HD: Okay

[01:34:27] All right, y'all give me a second. I know how to do this. Since y'all know I've been doing all the freaking, um, reactions.

[01:34:37] Where are we? Where are we? Here we go. 'Cause I really want to hear what she had to say

[01:34:46] All right, there we go. Now we got the Windows capture[01:35:00]

[01:35:07] Okay. Now let's do this

[01:35:17] tiktok: So I keep getting comments like this, and it's like, it's par for the course, right? People don't trust HR. But I get it enough, and I know that a lot of my colleagues in HR get it enough that I feel like it's important to let y'all know what we actually do, because I think that y'all don't. Y'all don't really understand HR's role in an organization.

[01:35:32] So I see our role, and I'm primarily talking about generalists, people who deal with the employees, because there's all types of functions in HR. I see our role as facilitating a workplace that is fair, productive, and legally compliant, okay? And our role is primarily consultative. We do not have direct decision-making authority over any employee's livelihood or work unless they directly, we supervise them, okay?

[01:35:53] So that's important, because the thing about what y'all are missing when you make these comments is that all the decisions that happen that are coming from [01:36:00] HR are really your supervisors and your leaders and your managers who are making those decisions and telling HR, "How can we do this in a way that is fair, legally compliant, and productive?"

[01:36:08] Okay? So there is something I think bigger in the atmosphere where, in our society, where there has been a division where HR is a scapegoat, and it's really not true. So many times a manager comes to us and says, "This is what I want to do." And many times our role is like, "Well, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like, if you do this, here are the risks that are going to come."

[01:36:25] You know, a lot of us, if you have influence and power, we can push back and say, "That is not going to be good. This is the consequence that you're going to have. Please don't do this. Let's bring in employment counsel so you can find out what, how this could be bad." But those who don't have that influence are just directed by senior leadership to do what they have asked and to do it in a way that protects the company.

[01:36:40] So if you want to hate us, that's fine. But what I think it really does is really makes your distrust of HR is really a misdirection of where your tr- distrust should be, which is with your supervisors and your leaders. And by just saying, calling us out is really giving a cover to the supervisors and the leaders who are making really, really poor decisions and ignores the role that HR plays to try to stop that stuff from happening, okay?

[01:36:57] So you can say what you want to say. I know there's lots of bad apples out here, but the same [01:37:00] is true about any function. And so, like, it's just frankly annoying, but hey, y'all going to do what y'all want to do.

[01:37:05] cybershortiee: Clock her, sister.

[01:37:06] HD: No, she right though. She is right. And I can attest to that of having HR actually help me out on stuff that I didn't even do anything wrong on.

[01:37:16] tiktok: Mm-hmm.

[01:37:16] HD: So HR will have your back as long as you are following the rules. Only you can prevent forest fires. I don't know what I was going to say right there. Um, I didn't, we didn't have the cash out one. Let me double check because I felt like, I really feel like it was something I put on there that we were supposed to talk about.

[01:37:36] But, um, while I'm still here, I will tell people, uh, we like I said in the beginning, companies are still on-prem, learn the cloud, pick your poison, AWS, Azure, GCP, and all the other subsequently cloud platforms there are. And also Know what you don't know. Know what you don't know. Please don't think just certing up is [01:38:00] gonna get you where you wanna get to.

[01:38:02] Um-

[01:38:02] cybershortiee: Especially if you don't really know the material, and you're just taking it to pass it, and you're using brain dumps to cheat.

[01:38:09] HD: That part too, but not even only that. Like you said, people get all these certs, and like at first maybe-

[01:38:14] cybershortiee: They'll get in the interview and can't even talk.

[01:38:15] HD: Nah, it- before you even get to the interview.

[01:38:18] At first you had certs that said, okay cool, this person, whatever, working the SOC. Now you got all these other certs that's not directly, oh, they wanted that. That's like network engineer certs.

[01:38:27] cybershortiee: Pen testing.

[01:38:27] HD: Now-

[01:38:28] cybershortiee: All over the place.

[01:38:29] HD: Yeah, so it's not even aligning with, you're thinking that you're accomplishing something, which you are, but what you're doing on your resume is confusing the ATS that is looking at it.

[01:38:37] And like, uh, we don't think this person would be a good fit. They got skills that's not relevant to the role. And so that's one of the things. And more certs doesn't really, uh, mean nothing. It just mean that if, if they're not practical, it means you paid the money, you studied, and you passed, but that's about it.

[01:38:52] Yep. And if you redid your resume, got certed up, put it in 17,000 LLMs, and they still ain't calling [01:39:00] you back- ... that means there is an issue with the stuff that you're doing. And no matter what is confirming your bias, you may need a human in the loop to tell you that that ain't it, chief That, that's what you need.

[01:39:17] A human in the loop

[01:39:18] cybershortiee: I'm leaving the folks with, um, data security is very important right now. So, you know, in your organization, ask them, "What are we doing to keep our data secure?"

[01:39:30] HD: Mm-hmm.

[01:39:30] cybershortiee: Can I look at the, the data loss prevention policies? Um, and that's what I do. I do data security. It's popping right now.

[01:39:37] AI is keeping me employed, so shout out to it.

[01:39:40] HD: Yeah. Everybody's talking about AI. I mean, even we talk about that any time, um, here's... Okay, here's a cheat code, guys. If you are a person who makes content or you got a brand, and you start doing stuff where you're doing things with companies that are in that space, now when jobs, you apply to jobs and you get hit back, you can tell the [01:40:00] recruiter, "Hey, I just did this talk for so-and-so.

[01:40:02] Check it out." That's all I've been doing. All these different roles I've applied to, whether that's like, uh, either manager- managerial or IC related, but they're asking about AI, I say, "Hey, go check out this webinar I just did with Profit and, and see if you like how, how I talk about AI here."

[01:40:17] cybershortiee: Mm-hmm.

[01:40:18] HD: Any type of way you can separate yourself.

[01:40:20] Um-

[01:40:20] cybershortiee: And again, that's that, that's using it to your advantage.

[01:40:24] HD: Yeah. And companies like to feel like they got the person. I, like, it's like dating. I got her, I got him. So companies like to feel like they got that steal.

[01:40:33] cybershortiee: Yeah.

[01:40:33] HD: So help them realize that you are a steal, a steal of a deal. Before we get out of here, you said we forgot to do-

[01:40:40] cybershortiee: Oh, God

[01:40:41] HD: the spelling bee.

[01:40:43] cybershortiee: Let me get some words. You got words already?

[01:40:48] HD: Um, I can just type in cyber spelling words.

[01:40:53] 'Cause I forgot that we could've did this when we were doing it.[01:41:00]

[01:41:01] But I think that's too loud. I'm gonna turn the volume down

[01:41:08] Yeah, that's something we'll do every time. It's time for us to spell, um, real quick and then we get out of here.

[01:41:13] cybershortiee: Okay. I'm working on it. Hurry up.

[01:41:18] HD: Okay. I got the first one for you.

[01:41:21] cybershortiee: Oh, God.

[01:41:22] HD: Um, what I do last time? Uh, firewall.

[01:41:28] cybershortiee: F-I-R-E-W-A-L-L.

[01:41:31] HD: Okay.

[01:41:32] cybershortiee: Um, I'm going to give you simulation.

[01:41:39] HD: S-I-M-U-L-A-T-I-O-N.

[01:41:42] cybershortiee: Okay. Round one, round one.

[01:41:45] Now intermediate

[01:41:48] HD: Uh, let's see. I kinda gave you some of these already. I'm trying to look at something that[01:42:00]

[01:42:01] Okay, I guess I'll say

[01:42:06] Continuity?

[01:42:07] cybershortiee: Ooh, why would you play with me like that? C-O-N, contin- C-O-N-T-I-N-U-I-T-Y.

[01:42:18] HD: Mm-hmm.

[01:42:19] cybershortiee: Ha. Yeah, did that. Um, ooh, um Uh

[01:42:35] Symmetric

[01:42:36] HD: Uh, S-I-M-M-E-T-R-I-C

[01:42:41] cybershortiee: Say that again

[01:42:43] HD: S-Y-

[01:42:43] cybershortiee: Okay ...

[01:42:44] HD: M-M-E-T-R-I-C.

[01:42:46] cybershortiee: Yeah. You said, you said S-I-M-

[01:42:48] HD: I said S-Y

[01:42:49] cybershortiee: You said I.

[01:42:51] HD: It sounded like I.

[01:42:52] cybershortiee: Okay. Um, that was good. But now we got expert level, one more round.

[01:42:58] HD: Let's see. I don't think I really... The hard thing [01:43:00] is, like, some of these, they, like, they're just longer, but they're not

[01:43:02] cybershortiee: premium.

[01:43:03] Ooh, I got a, I got a good one. I'm finna, I'm finna cook you with this one.

[01:43:05] HD: You probably will. Um, like, they aren't, like, hard, they're just longer words. So I'm trying to see if it's anyone on here that's tough. Uh, it's really not. Um- Let me see if I can find something else that'll give me

[01:43:43] Okay. Um, 'cause it gets to the point where you gotta put the words together 'cause they're like

[01:43:49] cybershortiee: I just... Oh, I got my word[01:44:00]

[01:44:01] HD: I'm gonna just do, um, one. It's not even hard, but, mmm, uh, okay

[01:44:05] cybershortiee: Mm-hmm

[01:44:07] HD: Compartmentalization

[01:44:09] cybershortiee: C-O-M-P-A-R-T-M-E-N-T-A-L-I-Z-A-T-I-O-N. Mm-hmm. Your girl can spell. Kerberos. Spell Kerberos

[01:44:21] HD: K-E-R-B-E-R-O-S

[01:44:23] cybershortiee: Okay, so we ain't got no winner today.

[01:44:26] HD: I see Kerbe- I've been seeing Kerberos for years- I, I know ... so that's on mu- muscle memory. I would never had to, uh, to guess about that one.

[01:44:34] But, um, I appreciate everybody for tuning in. I think we got to everything. If you're watching this on the replay, I mentioned us starting to possibly go live on Patreon. Now, with that being said, if we go live on Patreon, $2 to subscribe, but it'll be much funner than this because we will be unrestricted.

[01:44:49] So that's something we are planning to do. We'll plan on up to the date when we'll actually go live on Patreon, and hopefully, uh, y'all come join us on there and kick it with us. And then everybody else better watch the replay [01:45:00] uploaded on YouTube. But until next time, it's your boy HD

[01:45:06] cybershortiee: And Cyber Shorty.

[01:45:08] HD: And before we go, I gotta tell you one more time Hit the like button and we out of here. Until next time, we out. Peace